On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 14:55 +0100, Mike Hearn wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:37:35 -0400, Joshua Brindle wrote: > > The format is versioned the same way the kernel binary format is, so any > > changes to the format use a different version number, and backward > > compatbility is retained. > > That's good, but it's not what I asked. What are the binary compatibility > commitments you guys are making? Is it expected that the format will > change in future? Was it designed to be extendable? Is there some kind of > internal chunking system so new data can be added in a way that older > versions of SELinux will ignore? Good questions; I don't think that this has been fully resolved. MLS compatibility is also an issue; Fedora has enabled MLS/MCS, whereas other distros have not yet done so, and the format is affected by that. > Hmm, that sucks. For very simple policy like "this process can do XYZ" > shouldn't it be independent of targeted vs strict/fedora vs gentoo? > Are the capability names actually variable between distributions? Not the "capability names" i.e. class/permission names, but the domain/type names can vary. To the extent that the distributions use a common baseline for their policies, such variations should be minimal, and the reference policy will help in that respect going forward as well. To date, the NSA example policy has served that purpose, but not all distros have followed it. In the strict vs. targeted case, you have the issue that not all domains/types defined in the strict policy have equivalents in the targeted policy (since strict policy confines more processes and provides finer-grained distinctions), but that can largely be addressed via type aliases in the targeted policy so that you can refer to the strict policy type names regardless. > OK. This doesn't affect autopackage so much as it's meant for third party > packages, and therefore developers are expected to define their own policy > which would be independent of strict/targeted. I question the solution > given for RPM - why not simply fix RPM so it loads policy before > installing files? Yes, I agree with that. One potential issue is with installing a large number of packages; you'd like to be able to batch up all of the policy modules into a single policy update and load, and then unpack all of the packages. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency -- fedora-selinux-list mailing list fedora-selinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-selinux-list