Thank you Karsten for the links, I will read them this afternoon. Daniel, I am using a fully patched FC3 install. I don't know why ASP for Linux is trying to access the tty devices. My guess as to why it is executing locale stuff is because of the ASP for Linux administration page. The locale message only pop up if I goto those pages. For the record ASP for Linux was formally Chilisoft software. Thanks, Jason