On 5 May 2017 at 13:45, Jun Aruga <jaruga@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --with=bootstrap *.src.rpm > => _with_bootstrap can be used as --with=bootstrap > $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define '_with_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm > $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'need_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm > $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'enable_test 1' *.src.rpm Few general comments: 1) rpmbuild by default executes %check scripts. This section should be by default *enabled* except few well known cases like gdb (crashes koji) or other doing interactive tests. Disable %check on demand is possible by simple add --nocheck to rpmbuild parameters. No other macros/%bconds are needed. As firing %check is by default active adding any other conditional %ifing is redundant/not needed. In other words only for such cases when it is necessary to *disable by default fire test suit* additional %ifing logic should be used. 2) mock supports --nocheck switch and as the consequence in above example commands should be only "--nocheck" if it is really needed. If bootstrapping needs to disable %check look below 3) > %{?_with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} Looking on above I have kind of impression that most of the Fedora packages don't know what is the difference between %define and %global. So %global should be used *only* when it is need to overwrite some macro which comes with system resources and other system macros needs to be reevaluated after such redefinition. In other words as long as there there is no anything about <foo> macro in "rpmbuild --showrc | grep <foo>" output should be used %define .. not the %global because it is about defining some macros used only in exact spec file In existing Fedora spec files probably in +95% cases instead %global should be used %define 4) rpm supports more than 10 years %bconds which simplifies defining and using conditionally activated parts of procedures implemented in spec files. So above quoted line should be never used and only %bcond declaration should be: %bcond_with boostrap # disable bootstrap by default (yes .. "%bcond_with foo" disables and "%bcond_without foo" enables foo) Examples how to use macros defined by %bcond: %if %{with boostrap} BuidRequires: foo %endif or: %{?with_bootstrap:BuildRequires: foo} %build %configure \ --%{?with_bootstrap:en}%{?!with_bootstrap:dis}able-bootstrap \ --<other switches> or: %build %configure \ --with%{!?with_boostrap:out}-bootstrap \ --<other switches> or --with-bootstrap%{!?with_boostrap:=off} %files %{?with_boostrap:%{_bindir>/foo} %{!?with_boostrap:%{_bindir>/bar} None of the %post/%postun/%pre/%preun/%posttrans* scripts needs to be surrounded by %ifing as exact %files section looks like: %if %{with boostrap} $files boostrap <%files list> %endif The same is about "%package boostrap" and all other boostrap subpackage fields. They don't need for example bootstrap additional %ifing as well. (Above examples are for GNU auotools and it is easy to guess how this can be adapted for other build frameworks) Sometimes during during bootstrap may be necessary to disable %check %check %{?with_boostrap:%{__make} check} no other logic disabling %check is needed because (again) whatever is possible to fire in %check if it is only possible to use should be *enabled* by default. Summary: what is proposed in https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/509 should be IMO refused. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH _______________________________________________ packaging mailing list -- packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to packaging-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx