Just so FPC and everyone else here is aware, FESCo just approved a rather significant revision to the bundling guidelines which removes FPC from the process entirely. FPC will need to formulate a new guideline for recording upstream interaction but this should be no more than a couple of sentences. I have closed all of the existing bundling tickets. In those tickets I did erroneously mention the possibility of FPC still being involved with bundling of packages in the critical path, but that was not in the approved proposal. Most bundling of any type is now permitted in all packages, though it appears that FESCo will periodically audit the voluntarily added Provides: bundled() tags. I will draft a removal of the current bundling guidelines and their replacement with something closely derived from what FPC approved, which follows. " All packages whose upstreams allow them to be build against system libraries must be built against system libraries. All packages whose upstreams have no mechanism to build against system libraries must be contacted publicly about a path to supporting system libraries. If upstream refuses, this must be recorded in the spec file using a persistent mechanism to be clarified in the packaging guidelines. All packages whose upstreams have no mechanism to build against system libraries may opt to carry bundled libraries, but if they do, they must include Provides: bundled(<libname>) = <version> in their RPM spec file. " The FESCo ticket is here: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1483 Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-10-07/fesco.2015-10-07-18.00.html Log (discussion starts at 18:11:40): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-10-07/fesco.2015-10-07-18.00.log.html I happened to notice a ping so at least one FPC member was able to be present at the meeting to give some input from the packaging committee standpoint. Anyone interested in my opinions on the matter is welcome to read the minutes. I'm sure flames will result, but my interest here on this list is only technical. - J< -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging