Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:25:53PM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > >> My understanding is that to completely unbundle a library, whether a >> solib, a PHP lib, a Python module, whatever, you need to remove it from >> the upstream tarball prior to the build (i.e. modified tarball, not a >> patch or rm -rf in prep), >> > > This part at least is not necessary. We only modify the upstream tarball > when there's a reason that we can't ship the upstream source (which does > coincide with bundling of some patent-encumbered media libraries.) > > Ok, fair enough, as long as it's pulled in prep. >> and then use flags, symlinks, or whatever is >> appropriate to use the system lib for building and running the program. >> I don't feel like including the bundled version and making sure it's not >> used is enough. You *can't* really make sure it's not used if it's present. >> >> > <nod> This is the part I'd like us to discuss and decide. With pure python > code, I can audit a particular release fairly confidently but in many cases, > that doesn't provide protection when the next release is made (as upstream > may have made a mistake when importing the compat library in their new > code). Scons is an interesting case in that they've done a very good job of > making it so that won't happen either. > > I'm not sure about whether that's possible for other languages and also > whether we want to ignore the technical possibilities in order to make it > easier to review -- ie: "Just delete the bundled versions and patch the > source code so it runs" is easier to test if you're a non-programmer than > "you don't have to delete the bundled version if certain other technical > requirements for marking the library private are met of which both the > reviewer and the packager would have to be knowledgable". > > Easier to review is typically the best path to full compliance. Probably the easiest to script for audit purposes, as well. > -Toshio > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > packaging mailing list > packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging