Re: Jack and pulse on the Spin

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On 31 May 2012 14:25, David Sommerseth <davids@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 31/05/12 08:43, Brendan Jones wrote:
>> Just a note that the default F17 pulseaudio configuration supports
>> jack bridging via dbus (/etc/pulse/default.pa).
>>
>> ### Automatically connect sink and source if JACK server is
>> present .ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so .nofail load-module
>> module-jackdbus-detect .fail .endif
>>
>> This is different to again to
>> module-jack-sink.so/module-jack-source.so which is what some of us
>> have been using up until now.
>>
>> What that means is if jack-audio-connection-kit-dbus is on the spin
>> by default, bridging is set up automatically.
>>
>> This is something that needs to be considered carefully and I'd be
>> interested in how well jackdbus is working for people. I was
>> having random errors in the past with jackdbus hogging CPU with
>> pulse. I will perform some more monitoring here, but it would be
>> great to hear what others have experienced.
>>
>
> Throwing in a large torch at fire here now ... do we really need
> pulseaudio?  I mean, this is a multi-media production spin, filled
> with applications where Jack has become the standard - at least among
> the audio based applications.
>
> I don't know how that jack/pulse bridge really works ... but if pulse
> really is needed, wouldn't it be better to write something which can
> completely replace the pulse libraries, and rather re-use just the API
> ... so that pulse based applications appears as those in/out sinks in
> Jack directly?  This might be a rather long-term goal though.
>
> This might be a better way to get better predictability in how the
> audio production applications would behave, still having a fallback
> for non-jack capable software.
>
> Please educate me if I'm totally wrong here.
>
>

Most multimedia end-use stuff doesn't do Jack. If you don't support
them then you make the spin much less usable for casual use alongside
production (which might be what you want, but would be a big step).
Reimplementing the Pulse API is a pretty big target and what would be
the result? Another Pulse that bridges to Jack anyway? If you use
jack-pulse bridging then you have a Jack system and still have pulse
playback.

Can't say anything about the dbus bridging: not using F17 yet due to
an unresolved preupgrade bug.

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imalone
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