-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just a top-post to say, Brendan, thank you for making the call and taking the lead in making this happen. As I get more musicians in the house (my daughters keep getting older and more skilled), it's important to me that I can have a top-notch FLOSS audio workstation. I'll do whatever I can to help with the Audio Spin. On 02/19/2012 07:24 AM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > Traditionally Fedora has been known to walk the bleeding edge in > free and open source software development but for some reason this > has never been realised in the realms of pro-audio/music creation. > > Fedora has never really attracted the support of the audio > development community, and as a direct result has only flagging > support from audio users, enthusiasts and professionals alike. > > I think there are a number of reasons for this: 1) Strict packaging > and licensing guidelines, 2) relatively short release support > cycles 3) the absence of an stock RT kernel 4) the effort required > to tailor an installation for audio use > > Distributions like Debian/Ubuntu/Arch (and others like AVLinux) > have garnered strong support because they in some way address all > of these issues. Fedora however... > > 1) and 2) we can't change. In fact at the end of the day these > strengthen the distribution by making the packages we ship more > robust and closer to upstream. It also demands a certain amount of > love to ensure that updates/ABI bumps/breakages are dealt with > decisively and swiftly. It also means that audio developers are > more unlikely to maintain their own packages in Fedora (we need > more maintainers) > > 3) I can't see happening any time soon. The kernel team maintain so > many out of tree patches already that I don't think they really > have the time nor desire to maintain the realtime kernel as well. I > don't see this as a problem - recent kernels have incorporated much > of the the rt kernel patches of old and should satisfy most users. > For those with more stringent requirements can rely on the CCRMA > patched kernels > > 4) is where I think an audio spin comes into play. If we can > collate/automate all of the steps involved in setting up Fedora > for audio production we will attract both users and maintainers > alike alleviating the problems caused by 1 and 2. > > I'm proposing to formally revive the past Fedora Audio Spin / > Music Creation efforts of a couple of years ago in time for an F18 > Audio spin release. This means we have one whole release cycle to > get all of the packages we require into stable so they can be > available for Live composes for the F18 release cycle. > > Apart from packaging efforts, the last few weeks for me has been > an information gathering exercise. More on this soon, but briefly, > the current to do list is: - pulling in all of the must have > packages from CCRMA - determining the package list - packaging the > Fedora Musician's guide - repackaging/patching rpmfusion packages > for Fedora (qtractor and others if required) - developing sane RT > priorities for the stock kernels (threadirqs) - consensus on > distribution media, default desktop/supported desktops - default > systemd enabled services - themes and artwork - resubmit the Spin > proposal for F18 > > If you want to contribute, here's how: - become a contributor/get a > FAS account [1] and join the music-creation group - help maintain > the audio creation wiki's (formalize the to do list)[2][3] - this > is really out of date. Many packages have been orphaned or are > already in Fedora. Needs to be brought in line with the package > database [5]. I'm not convinced that this page really needs to be > so detailed. Wish lsit is probably the most important - register > your interest in the contributor section of the audio spin wiki > [3] - help test new packages - I will be listing all upcoming > changes on this list and I encourage other package maintainers to > do the same [3] - become a tester or packager of audio packages > [4][5] - help test the new spins as we make them available. - join > Chris in his documentation efforts [7] - volunteer desktop artwork > - and most importantly, voice your opinion on how this project > should be realized! Choice of media/desktop/applications > /configuration etc. More proposals on this coming soon. > > Packaging the software and building the media constitutes less than > a quarter of the effort required here. What we need most is strong > community support so please respond to this email if you are > interested! > > Lets do it > > Brendan > > [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_Creation [3] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AudioCreationSpinDevelopment [4] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA [5] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers > > [6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ > [7] > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Musicians_Guide/index.html > > _______________________________________________ music mailing > list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music - -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Architect team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFPQoxN2ZIOBq0ODEERAlGYAJ4zazFG3smCvCDaJwK5ygx693TezACeJsUh oQ+0cyYySvWPd4WzEAj1X5U= =Nom/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
