I'd send all beginners to check out qtractor's documentation, despite being for an older verison of qtractor: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/qtractor/qtractor-0.3.0-user-manual.pdf Using Qtractor means several less pieces of software need to be used, as qtractor can do the job of qjackctl: it controls jackd, and sets connections to various audio/midi devices on a per-project basis (essentially, the qjackctl "patchbay" is saved with each project)... Making music with qtractor means you can go from "zero" to "making music" just by invoking the application: if you've saved and configured your project correctly, simply load up the .qtr file, hit play, and hear music. All your keyboards, sound devices, audio ports, LV2 or DSSI plugins, etc will all be hooked up in the exact way you had them setup last time you saved the project. This is exactly the kind of "ready-to-hand" tool that a student needs so they don't need to waste time with tedious configuration and setup each time they want to work on music. In the recent past, I've made qtractor packages available for Fedora: I'd recommend not using the binary below except to just get a feel for the app. Use the subversion trunk bleeding-edge version -- it just means more bugs are fixed -- http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-downloads.html#SVN and compile/install http://qtractor.sourceforge.net/qtractor-index.html#Installation . To see Rui's progress: http://qtractor.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/qtractor/trunk/?view=log Here's my older "stable" release and modified SPEC file for fedora: http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-0.4.6-4.npm.fc12.spec http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-0.4.6-4.npm.fc12.src.rpm http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-0.4.6-4.npm.fc12.x86_64.rpm http://nielsmayer.com/qtractor-debuginfo-0.4.6-4.npm.fc12.x86_64.rpm -- Niels http://nielsmayer.com PS: I also think Denemo ( http://denemo.org/index.php/Get_Denemo ) is also a powerful "all in one" system that is worth documenting as the gnome/guile alternative to frescobaldi. Denemo will respond/read keyboard-entered MIDI, and it lets you hear the notes as you move them around, and play the score. Again, exactly the kind of "instant gratification" that a student needs to stay on-task. Denemo seems particularly oriented towards student education: it has interesting "aural training" and other "note reading" exercises as menu-items, using its built-in hypermedia capabilities to guide students, score their answers to questions, etc. _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music