Hello All http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10411&preview_id=10411 I have drafted the systemd article (part 6). Please suggest if any correction or additional points need to be covered in this article considering this as my first article :) Ashutosh S.Bhakare On Fri, 2015-10-09 at 03:25 +0000, marketing -request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Send marketing mailing list submissions to > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > marketing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > marketing-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of marketing digest..." > > > NOTE: When replying to digest messages, please set the subject to > match the original message. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Systemd series -- need writers! (Paul W. Frields) > 2. Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme (Ryan Lerch) > 3. Re: Systemd series -- need writers! (Bryan Sutherland) > 4. Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme (Ryan Lerch) > 5. Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme (Ryan Lerch) > 6. Re: Systemd series -- need writers! (Paul W. Frields) > 7. Magazine editorial board meeting recap 2015-Oct-08 > (Paul W. Frields) > 8. Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme (František > Zatloukal) > 9. Github pages/Pelican article (Paul W. Frields) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 16:47:02 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > To: marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Systemd series -- need writers! > Message-ID: <20151008204702.GJ27628@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi all, > > So sorry to be late on this. There's a systemd series in the works > that we'd like to get people to start working on. Anyone interested > in writing one of these? This is a great opportunity to get involved > even if you are more of a techie type, and don't want to have to > figure out a topic on your own. We've done it for you! :-) > > If interested, just reply here on the list. Feel free to reach out > to > community friends if you know someone who'd be interested, and get > them in touch with us. > > * * * > > systemd part 1: What is a unit file? What kind of things can it do? > Where should I modify or put new unit files on my system? How can I > find out what unit owns a process now running? How can I really kill > all processes for a unit? > > systemd part 2: What are unit dependencies? How can you enforce > ordering of e.g. daemons or one-shot launches? How does this concept > lend to faster boot times? > > systemd part 3: How can I more effectively use the systemd journal to > find and diagnose problems? [bound by time, by unit, since last boot, > other?...] > > systemd part 4: How do I convert an existing SysVinit script into a > systemd unit file? > > systemd part 5: How can I use a template unit file? [an example is > the > getty service -- perhaps show how to launch multiple web hosts or > something this way?] > > systemd part 6: How to mask a service unit (and why; difference > between this and disable) > *** Ashutosh already volunteered for this one! \o/ > > > -- > Paul W. Frields > http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:07:43 +1000 > From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme > Message-ID: <5616DB1F.3020701@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 10/08/2015 06:07 PM, František Zatloukal wrote: > > Hi, > > I am editor in chief of Czech community website fedora.cz > > <http://fedora.cz> . Apart from doing editor job I am planning to > > deploy new theme on the web. I wanted to ask you if somebody could > > send me source code of fedoramagazine theme? It would greatly help > > me > > if I won't have to write new theme completely but just modify > > existing > > theme a little :) > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > -- > > *Best regards / S pozdravem, > > > > František Zatloukal > > * > > *Fedora.cz Editor in-chief > > * > > *Web:* frantisek.zatloukalu.eu <http://frantisek.zatloukalu.eu> > > > > > For sure! we have it in this repo on pagure.io > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme > > It is based off another GPLed theme called Baskerville: > http://www.andersnoren.se/teman/baskerville-wordpress-theme/ > > cheers, > ryanlerch > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/ > 20151009/abc54cf7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 21:10:17 +0000 > From: Bryan Sutherland <bryan.sutherland@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Systemd series -- need writers! > Message-ID: > < > CALqSCD1v+SCXSsuV2GS_SpafCT9YBcOm0AL6tbPg=L0rTG9NRw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Heya, > You can mark me down for parts 1, 2 and 3 > > Cheers > Bryan > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 16:47 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > So sorry to be late on this. There's a systemd series in the works > > that we'd like to get people to start working on. Anyone > > interested > > in writing one of these? This is a great opportunity to get > > involved > > even if you are more of a techie type, and don't want to have to > > figure out a topic on your own. We've done it for you! :-) > > > > If interested, just reply here on the list. Feel free to reach out > > to > > community friends if you know someone who'd be interested, and get > > them in touch with us. > > > > * * * > > > > systemd part 1: What is a unit file? What kind of things can it do? > > Where should I modify or put new unit files on my system? How can I > > find out what unit owns a process now running? How can I really > > kill > > all processes for a unit? > > > > systemd part 2: What are unit dependencies? How can you enforce > > ordering of e.g. daemons or one-shot launches? How does this > > concept > > lend to faster boot times? > > > > systemd part 3: How can I more effectively use the systemd journal > > to > > find and diagnose problems? [bound by time, by unit, since last > > boot, > > other?...] > > > > systemd part 4: How do I convert an existing SysVinit script into a > > systemd unit file? > > > > systemd part 5: How can I use a template unit file? [an example is > > the > > getty service -- perhaps show how to launch multiple web hosts or > > something this way?] > > > > systemd part 6: How to mask a service unit (and why; difference > > between this and disable) > > *** Ashutosh already volunteered for this one! \o/ > > > > > > -- > > Paul W. Frields > > http://paul.frields.org/ > > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 > > 3717 > > > > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > -- > > marketing mailing list > > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > List info or to change your subscription: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/ > 20151008/71212a4d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:16:03 +1000 > From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > František Zatloukal <zatloukal.frantisek@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme > Message-ID: <5616DD13.9010507@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 10/08/2015 06:07 PM, František Zatloukal wrote: > > Hi, > > I am editor in chief of Czech community website fedora.cz > > <http://fedora.cz> . Apart from doing editor job I am planning to > > deploy new theme on the web. I wanted to ask you if somebody could > > send me source code of fedoramagazine theme? It would greatly help > > me > > if I won't have to write new theme completely but just modify > > existing > > theme a little :) > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > -- > > *Best regards / S pozdravem, > > > > František Zatloukal > > * > > *Fedora.cz Editor in-chief > > * > > *Web:* frantisek.zatloukalu.eu <http://frantisek.zatloukalu.eu> > > > > > For sure! we have it in this repo on pagure.io > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme > > It is based off another GPLed theme called Baskerville: > http://www.andersnoren.se/teman/baskerville-wordpress-theme/ > > cheers, > ryanlerch > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/ > 20151009/c8c9c4bc/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:48:39 +1000 > From: Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > František Zatloukal <zatloukal.frantisek@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme > Message-ID: <5616E4B7.4000803@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 10/09/2015 07:16 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote: > > On 10/08/2015 06:07 PM, František Zatloukal wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I am editor in chief of Czech community website fedora.cz > > > <http://fedora.cz> . Apart from doing editor job I am planning to > > > deploy new theme on the web. I wanted to ask you if somebody > > > could > > > send me source code of fedoramagazine theme? It would greatly > > > help me > > > if I won't have to write new theme completely but just modify > > > existing theme a little :) > > > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *Best regards / S pozdravem, > > > > > > František Zatloukal > > > * > > > *Fedora.cz Editor in-chief > > > * > > > *Web:* frantisek.zatloukalu.eu <http://frantisek.zatloukalu.eu> > > > > > > > > For sure! we have it in this repo on pagure.io > > > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme > > > > It is based off another GPLed theme called Baskerville: > > http://www.andersnoren.se/teman/baskerville-wordpress-theme/ > > > > cheers, > > ryanlerch > > > > > FWIW, we also use a pretty standard size for the Featured images that > we > use in the theme, and we keep the SVGs for these in this repo: > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images > > Also, we have a bunch of new howto articles coming out recently too > (we > have a systemd series in the works), it might be good to try to sync > up > so you guys could get them translated and published at around the > same > time we do. > > cheers, > ryanlerch > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/ > 20151009/4fd287bf/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 17:50:10 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > To: marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Systemd series -- need writers! > Message-ID: <20151008215010.GL27628@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 09:10:17PM +0000, Bryan Sutherland wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 16:47 Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > So sorry to be late on this. There's a systemd series in the > > > works > > > that we'd like to get people to start working on. Anyone > > > interested > > > in writing one of these? This is a great opportunity to get > > > involved > > > even if you are more of a techie type, and don't want to have to > > > figure out a topic on your own. We've done it for you! :-) > > > > > > If interested, just reply here on the list. Feel free to reach > > > out to > > > community friends if you know someone who'd be interested, and > > > get > > > them in touch with us. > > > > > > * * * > > > > > > systemd part 1: What is a unit file? What kind of things can it > > > do? > > > Where should I modify or put new unit files on my system? How can > > > I > > > find out what unit owns a process now running? How can I really > > > kill > > > all processes for a unit? > > > > > > systemd part 2: What are unit dependencies? How can you enforce > > > ordering of e.g. daemons or one-shot launches? How does this > > > concept > > > lend to faster boot times? > > > > > > systemd part 3: How can I more effectively use the systemd > > > journal to > > > find and diagnose problems? [bound by time, by unit, since last > > > boot, > > > other?...] > > > > Heya, > > You can mark me down for parts 1, 2 and 3 > > > > Cheers > > Bryan > > That sounds awesome Bryan. If you wanted to start with part 1, do > you > think you could draft something by next Tuesday 2015-Oct-13? > > You can meet up with us on IRC Freenode #fedora-mktg for some help > getting started. Here are some helpful hints: > > http://fedoramagazine.org/writing-an-article-for-the-fedora-magazine/ > > (It looks like you're partway through step 3 already. See one of us > on IRC with your username so we can make you an Author.) > > -- > Paul W. Frields > http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 18:11:08 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > To: marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: meetingminutes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Magazine editorial board meeting recap 2015-Oct-08 > Message-ID: <20151008221108.GM27628@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015- > 10-08/magazine.2015-10-08-21.00.html > Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015- > 10-08/magazine.2015-10-08-21.00.txt > Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015- > 10-08/magazine.2015-10-08-21.00.log.html > > * * * > ================================================ > #fedora-meeting: Fedora Magazine editorial board > ================================================ > > > Meeting started by stickster at 21:00:56 UTC. The full logs are > available at > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-10-08/magazine.2 > 015-10-08-21.00.log.html > . > > > > Meeting summary > --------------- > * Roll call! (stickster, 21:01:05) > > * Agenda reminder (stickster, 21:05:09) > * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Magazine/Editorial_meetings > (stickster, 21:05:24) > > * Retrospective for the week (5 min) (stickster, 21:05:59) > * LINK: http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/index.php?page=calendar > (stickster, 21:06:22) > * We have a lot of pitches and drafts in process right now > (stickster, 21:12:43) > * So far, on track for a solid week of stats this week... well done > to > all writers :-) (stickster, 21:13:09) > > * Pitch votes (stickster, 21:16:52) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&ord > erby=date&order=asc > (stickster, 21:16:57) > * Eclipse mars -- no update in the article to date (stickster, > 21:17:25) > * LINK: http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=9851&preview=true ;(stickster > , > 21:17:33) > * AGREED: promote jflory7 to editor! (stickster, 21:20:25) > * AGREED: Moved Eclipse post to holding pen (stickster, 21:23:02) > * systemd series, parts 1-6 -- these are seeking authors, email is > out > to list (stickster, 21:23:23) > * LINK: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2015-October/ > 018037.html > (stickster, 21:23:39) > * ACTION: stickster respond to Bryan on list to work out details > (stickster, 21:24:43) > * ACTION: ryanlerch Make a systemd series featured image template > (stickster, 21:25:16) > * OpenVPN article, another awesome idea from jflory7 (stickster, > 21:26:10) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=true ;(stickster, > 21:26:29) > * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Openvpn ;(stickster, > 21:27:17) > * AGREED: This pitch is accepted as one, or multiple, articles -- > whichever works best (stickster, 21:29:27) > * Upgrade your Workstation from F22 to F23 -- go go jflory7!!! > (stickster, 21:30:26) > * AGREED: Accepted for sure -- moved to Draft status (stickster, > 21:32:30) > * G11n Test Days report (stickster, 21:33:27) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10282&preview=true ;(stickster, > 21:33:28) > * AGREED: Moved G11n article to draft (stickster, 21:39:03) > > * Drafts unfinished (stickster, 21:41:54) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&pos > t_type=post&orderby=date&order=asc > (stickster, 21:42:05) > * Github pages with pelican for blogging -- looks ready for > editorial > pass + publishing (stickster, 21:43:03) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10186&preview=true ;(stickster, > 21:43:07) > * ACTION: stickster edit Pelican article for publication > (stickster, > 21:43:45) > * systemd part 0 (ryanlerch writing) (stickster, 21:46:13) > * LINK: > http://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10202&preview=true ;(stickster, > 21:46:18) > * ACTION: stickster tech review the article ASAP (Friday 2015-Oct > -09) > (stickster, 21:52:05) > * Flock post still waiting -- this was supposed to be a wrapper -- > waiting for decause? (stickster, 21:55:12) > * ACTION: jflory7 see if he can do 'quick blurb' take on Flock > post, > and we could do it as a filler publication on Fri or Mon > (stickster, 21:57:46) > * SFD 2015 post also on decause plate -- stickster met with him on > Friday to help him focus it more clearly, and he's done some > update > on it (stickster, 21:58:07) > * ACTION: stickster Follow up with decause on SFD 2015 article > editing > (stickster, 22:00:35) > > Meeting ended at 22:09:36 UTC. > > > > > Action Items > ------------ > * stickster respond to Bryan on list to work out details > * ryanlerch Make a systemd series featured image template > * stickster edit Pelican article for publication > * stickster tech review the article ASAP (Friday 2015-Oct-09) > * jflory7 see if he can do 'quick blurb' take on Flock post, and we > could do it as a filler publication on Fri or Mon > * stickster Follow up with decause on SFD 2015 article editing > > > > > Action Items, by person > ----------------------- > * jflory7 > * jflory7 see if he can do 'quick blurb' take on Flock post, and we > could do it as a filler publication on Fri or Mon > * ryanlerch > * ryanlerch Make a systemd series featured image template > * stickster > * stickster respond to Bryan on list to work out details > * stickster edit Pelican article for publication > * stickster tech review the article ASAP (Friday 2015-Oct-09) > * stickster Follow up with decause on SFD 2015 article editing > * **UNASSIGNED** > * (none) > > > > > People Present (lines said) > --------------------------- > * stickster (138) > * ryanlerch (75) > * jflory7 (49) > * zodbot (12) > * puiterwijk (4) > * cydrobolt (3) > > > > > Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 > > .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot > > > -- > Paul W. Frields > http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 02:35:04 +0200 > From: František Zatloukal <zatloukal.frantisek@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Fedora Marketing team <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Fwd: fedoramagazine.org Wordpress theme > Message-ID: > < > CA+7T7nrq737RagYEkxvCAO8tYPv4WW792+z4Te92Rpu9TA4ONw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Cool, thank you so much Ryan! > > ATM we're trying to resolve some problems with domain owner so the > web is > offline. But after it's fixed up, I'll try to translate articles from > fedoramagazine sooner after their release ;) > > 2015-10-08 23:48 GMT+02:00 Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > On 10/09/2015 07:16 AM, Ryan Lerch wrote: > > > > On 10/08/2015 06:07 PM, František Zatloukal wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I am editor in chief of Czech community website fedora.cz . Apart > > from > > doing editor job I am planning to deploy new theme on the web. I > > wanted to > > ask you if somebody could send me source code of fedoramagazine > > theme? It > > would greatly help me if I won't have to write new theme completely > > but > > just modify existing theme a little :) > > > > Many thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > *Best regards / S pozdravem, František Zatloukal * > > > > *Fedora.cz Editor in-chief * > > *Web:* frantisek.zatloukalu.eu > > > > > > For sure! we have it in this repo on pagure.io > > > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme > > > > It is based off another GPLed theme called Baskerville: > > http://www.andersnoren.se/teman/baskerville-wordpress-theme/ > > > > cheers, > > ryanlerch > > > > FWIW, we also use a pretty standard size for the Featured images > > that we > > use in the theme, and we keep the SVGs for these in this repo: > > > > https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-images > > > > Also, we have a bunch of new howto articles coming out recently too > > (we > > have a systemd series in the works), it might be good to try to > > sync up so > > you guys could get them translated and published at around the same > > time we > > do. > > > > cheers, > > ryanlerch > > > > > > -- > > > > *Best regards / S pozdravem,František Zatloukal* > > *Fedora.cz Editor in-chief* > *Web:* frantisek.zatloukalu.eu > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/attachments/ > 20151009/8573f58a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 23:25:05 -0400 > From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > To: marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Github pages/Pelican article > Message-ID: <20151009032505.GA12941@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I finished editing this article, and it should be ready for > publication once it has a featured image. > > One note to authors: When you create an article draft, please take > the > time to fully outline the steps required for a user, AND test them. > Editors may not always have the ability to check the technical > details > in your article, which results in a less useful magazine post. > > -- > Paul W. Frields > http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com > > > ------------------------------ > -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
