Jiri Eischmann píše v St 01. 10. 2014 v 17:01 +0200: > Jiri Eischmann píše v St 03. 09. 2014 v 13:41 +0200: > > Hi, > > yesterday in FAmSCo, we started a discussion what media we should > > produce for F21. > > We have been producing Multidesktop Live DVD for many releases, but with > > the Fedora.Next changes we need to revisit it. > > In FAmSCo, we've pretty much agreed that Multidesktop Live DVD is not > > very aligned with the Fedora.Next initiative where we want to emphasize > > the official products and those products should be delivered as clear > > offerings all the way to the users. Merging them with other spins means > > that the clear product offering is lost before it reaches the users. > > Although Multidesktop Live DVD is economically the best solution, it is > > not from the marketing perspective and doesn't deliver the message of > > Fedora.Next products. > > > > Suggestions that have come up at the meeting: > > * the Cloud product doesn't really need a DVD media, > > * having one DVD with Workstation and Server Products, > > * having separate DVDs with Workstation and Server, > > * creating additional DVD with other flavors of Fedora (other desktops, > > many other specialized spins?) if there is enough interest and demand. > > > > Christoph Wickert is going to bring it up on the workstation and server > > group mailing lists and I'd like to start the discussion here because > > this is very related to marketing. Opinions? :) > > > > Jiri > > > > P.S. we also discussed replacing DVDs with usb flash drives. As much as > > we'd love to offer flash drives instead of DVDs it's still not a viable > > option because flash drives are still 10x more expensive than DVDs. Not > > much has changed there in the last two years :/ > > We discussed the topic in FAmSCo again. > The topic was discussed on several mailing lists and we've only > registered strong demand for DVDs of Fedora Workstation. There have been > some suggestions to add Fedora Server to FW as a virtual machine, but no > one has volunteered to execute this idea and we really need to move the > matter forward. > So the plan is to produce Fedora Workstation DVDs, 64bit only because we > don't know of 32-bit computers which could run FW reasonably. We may > also consider some less power hungry option for the regions of APAC and > LATAM (probably Xfce Spin). But it only will be an alternative, Fedora > Workstation DVD is what we want to distribute globally. > The quantities and whether the alternative DVD will be produced is at > the discretion of the regions because the production is paid from their > budgets and they're the closest to users, so they should know the best > what they need. > > Other kinds of media might be also considered and used in the end, but > it doesn't stop the DVD production because DVDs will remain our primary > media for this release. > > The plan is of course a subject of change. I just felt it was necessary > to push it forward and propose a concrete solution because there is not > much time left. > > Jiri Hi, I finally have quotes for EMEA: dual-layer DVD (DVD9): unit price: $.78 (quantity: 1000), $.55 (2000), $.44 (3000), $.36 (5000) single-layer DVD (DVD5): unit price: $.70 (1000), $.50 (2000), $.41 (3000), $.34 (5000) If we want CD Digipack (booklet cover instead of a simple sleeve cover) we will have to pay an additional cost: $.50 (1000), $.35 (2000), $.27 (3000), $.22 (5000) I also asked about the mini DVDs (8cm) which are much lighter to ship. They said they don't produce them any more because they don't work with the new Macbook-like DVD drives which is a very valid argument against them. USB flash disk (form factor: credit card, CMYK print, 4GB, quantity: 500): unit price: $4.36 The price already includes preloading data on the drives. We've explored the market quite extensively and you cannot buy flash drives much cheaper. We may get down to $3-4, but it'd be really shitty drives with no print on them and no preloaded data. Paper web key (21x10cm): unit prices: $1.97 (500), $1.55 (1000) Plastic web key (see the attached picture): unit prices: $1.54 (500), $1.34 (1000) The price of web keys is IMHO quite high considering that they can't contain almost no data. They're usually used to open a browser with a certain website, so I guess autorun is used which is more or less a Windows-only thing. The cheapest alternative to DVDs would be fliers with a download link/QR code and instructions how to download Fedora, create a bootable usb, and install it. I've already created a ticket in the EMEA trac, so that we can discuss and vote about the production for this region: https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/422 Jiri
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