* on the Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 02:19:25PM +0200, Christoph Wickert was commenting: > Am Freitag, den 01.04.2011, 23:38 +0800 schrieb Harish Pillay: > > > > The PackageKit GUI (convenient screenshots > > here: http://www.packagekit.org/pk-screenshots.html) does not have the > > same feel as a marketplace/appstore. > > Why do you think so? I don't think there is much difference: There is > applications grouped by topic and a description. Compared to an appstore > it lacks screenshots but given the size of our repodata I doubt we > should add more stuff on top. It is about perception. It is about branding. > > It does not speak to the non-techie user. > > Frankly speaking I feel we have had a lot of problems recently because > we are are trying too hard to speak to non-techie issues. I am not proposing solving all problems. I am specifically suggesting that we consider making the addition/removal of applications friendlier. > > Consider: > > > > "Oh, you want an app that allows you to capture business card info?" > > "Ok, go to System->Administration->Add/Remove Software" > > > > conversation or would this: > > > > "Oh, you want an app that allows you to capture business card info?" > > "Ok, go to Fedora Mart and search for 'business card reader'" > > > > be better? > > Sorry, this is not a fair comparison: You make PackageKit sound > extremely unsexy and Fedora Mart too easy. Why do you describe how to > find PackageKit but not Fedora Mart? Packagekit even has the more > descriptive name. > > IMHO the correct analogy is: > "Ok, go to Add/Remove Software and search for 'business card reader'" > > Not much difference, isn't it? > > The only difference is the terminology, but markets and stores only make > sense if you have to *sell* something. You are missing the point. it is NOT about *selling* anything per se. It is riding on an awareness that "this is how you add/remove apps" in a form that clicks with what has been done elsewhere. My minor nit-picking about "PackageKit is that it does not sound to a non-techie anything like a "tool to add/delete apps. Heck, in the menu list, you do not even see PackageKit anywhere. Nowhere am I suggesting changing any code or how yum/rpm works. My suggestion comes from a recent interaction with a group of teachers to whom I was showcasing Fedora. What they saw interested them significantly. When they played around with the desktop (it was on a Live CD), one of them asked about how she could get apps into the system. I showed her the System->Admin->Add/Remove steps and she remarked "isn't there a marketplace?". I said this is the same as a marketplace, but to her, it was too arcane. We are missing great opportunities to ride on a growing meme to address end user perceptions by not considering my proposal. Harish
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