Hello Bryan and Chris, As usual, here is my feedback on your review of Fedora 13 at http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=1976. While I understand that the review was from a desktop end user perspective, Fedora's focus is different and that might be useful to keep in mind. The target audience for Fedora is described in our overview and here is a reference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base Having said that, let me go through the details and respond to some specific points in the review. * Btrfs is not supported in the Live images as noted in our release notes. Our live images pre-formatted and compressed Ext4 ones and that is the reason it is super fast to install. We trade it some flexibility (no choice of packages or support for other filesystems) for speed (typically the entire installation is just a couple of mins). You will have to use the non-live images if you want to try out the experimental support for Btrfs. I have made sure that the announcement of Fedora 13 points out this detail as well. Our current draft is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_announcement There are lots of new exciting new features and I would love to see the show cover more. * Chris noted that our wiki page on PackageKit missing items and third party repositories were user unfriendly and I thought it could use some improvements as well. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageKit_Items_Not_Found#Missing_Codec https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Third_party_repositories Hope you find it more friendlier now. * Shotwell : While you are comparing F-Spot and Shotwell, I should note that F-Spot has not been included by default in Fedora Live image for several releases. Fedora desktop team had a discussion about replacing Gthumb with Shotwell and I proposed that we install Shotwell instead of F-Spot in the non-live image as well. It seems you have doubts about the reasons why and instead of me explaining it to you, I would note that all these discussions happen transparently and you can read through it at http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-March/005883.html Shotwell is a really fast and awesome application and it didn't feel like you folks had taken a good look at it. I highly recommend importing some pics and playing with it more. As I indicated before in my feedback on the last review, the reason why we have less apps is because we opted to provide more comprehensive local support out of the box. We considered doing a Live DVD image instead for this release but decided against it during the development process. We will re-evaluate that decision for the next release. * Openoffice.org : Bryan mentioned that the Openoffice.org version is outdated. I am not sure why he though so but that is incorrect. We include the very latest stable release: 3.2.0 $ rpm -q openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-core-3.2.0-12.21.fc13.i686 * GNOME PackageKit: We are working on a alternative frontend that is more focused on application installation than the current interface. You can follow progress at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApplicationInstaller -- Thanks for the review and I hope to continue the discussions. Rahul -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
