I'll contact the them to see if i can.
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On 22 April 2010 21:19, Nelson Marques <07721@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Good stuff.
Could we manage to get a Plymouth themes area ? :)
nelson
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On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:03 +0300, Tareq Al Jurf wrote:
> Hi Nelson
> I think that you should see this fedora-art.org
> I sent opendesktop.org an email, and they've done it.
>
> Regards
>
> On 22 April 2010 19:52, Nelson Marques <07721@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I thought over in many things and I do recognize some
> problems that
> might be related to people not enrolling with communities like
> our. I
> would like to propose the following (though I could prepare a
> decent
> document, I'd rather take this approach first).
>
> Fedora 13 is going live soon, and honestly everyone should be
> committed
> to it, but once F13 is live, it is expected that maybe in the
> upcoming
> months after the release there's too much to do still. So
> maybe the best
> time is to trigger this around July. At that time people
> should be
> preparing for vacations and so on (at least the youth, which
> is probably
> the main audience for this).
> I am not sure when the theme is going to be decided and
> specially by
> whom for Fedora 14, but this makes sense to be done right
> after such is
> accomplished.
>
> What I would like to do:
>
> Launch a challenge in existing artist communities through a
> cooperation
> protocol between Fedora and those communities, for some quick
> examples:
>
> * opendesktop.org (gnome-look.org, kde-look.org, etc);
> * deviantart.com
> * gnome.org and kde.org (?? this people are most likely
> buried with
> work already)
> * suggestions from current artists
>
> This challenge should be a "call to arms" oriented campaign
> in which
> artists are invited to produce artwork for Fedora Project. As
> things are
> not going to be much random, this is what I though that is
> going to be
> needed:
>
> #1 - Fedora 14 Theme > this has to be decided prior.
> #2 - A document that provides guidelines for participants to
> comply
> (this should be accomplished by the Fedora Design Team, as
> it's their
> field of action/expertise).
> #3 - A place where artists can submit their work. (this
> shouldnt be too
> complicated and I would suggest to use a wiki page for this).
> #4 - Licensing for submitted artwork (this is for sure
> something I have
> no knowledge, I believe that eventually there are people here
> who have
> done similiar things in the past, so selecting and
> highlighting such
> would be great).
> #5 - A committee to analyze the submitted artwork. We can run
> this as
> Fedora or eventually also invite people from other
> communities, such as
> GNOME, KDE, etc. If this artwork is going to be enabled by
> Fedora and
> distributed for KDE/GNOME, makes sense to me to have someone
> from their
> project on this also. See such option as strengthening bonds
> between us
> and them.
> #6 - A proper Marketing/Communication campaign for this. We
> should be
> able to reach everyone.
> #7 - Decide what kind of artwork we want (ex: GNOME Meta
> Themes, KDE
> themes, Icon Themes, wallpapers, videos ?).
> #8 - Some Ambassadorial support work. I would recon that
> _current_
> artists who are ambassadors should have a key role here. As
> artists they
> might be enrolled on other existing communities, they for sure
> talk the
> same language as other artists and know how to attract people
> in a more
> effective way than we can at Marketing. As for standard
> non-artist
> Ambassadors, I believe they can help a lot also, as running
> such project
> is mainly Public Relations work (something I suck at).
>
> Some doubts:
>
> - If we run such campaign, who decides if we can include or
> not
> community based artwork? Can we freely include on F14 some
> extra stuff
> that we get from such a campaign ?
>
> - The tools... we are promoting open source, but if we scroll
> through
> Deviant Art for instance, there is work which is distributed
> with a
> friendly license, but is generated in maybe non-friendly
> software, such
> as OS X platforms and eventually not GIMP/Inkscape stuff.
> Should we
> apply restrictions and check for headers and traces of non-oss
> in the
> submitted artwork?
>
> - I would like submitters to place their artwork in place
> where FAS
> registration is demanded. In the rush of submitting their
> work, they
> will go through that step with some "pleasure". If such is
> done, with a
> single group apply (ex: design-team) and joining a mailling
> list, their
> approach as a potential Fedora contributor is basically done.
> This could
> be explored.
>
> - Ice breaking... People who might want to submit artwork
> will be for
> sure in contact with some of our people. For example we can
> probably
> forward them for a "help list" for this event or existing list
> such as
> design-team to clear some doubts. Doing such will place them
> directly in
> contact with Fedora Teams and will work as a Ice Breaker. This
> should
> probably make their possible integration in the future much
> easier, as
> they will start having friendly voices around.
>
> - Motivation - Fedora is supposed to be installed in 24
> million
> computers worldwide (or so some say). This is a kick-ass
> distribution
> channel for artists. It should provide enough motivation for
> them to
> participate (if we are friendly with rules).
>
> - Marketing Involvement > I'm not sure how many people face
> this, but
> this is a typical marketing promotion campaign. It does
> require some
> work and free time. I'm making myself available for this and I
> can nag
> my employer to give me 5 hours weekly to work on this, plus my
> free
> time.
>
> - Ambassadorial Work > I'm not sure on how this can be done,
> so some
> feedback from Ambassadors is welcome, and eventually we can
> see how we
> can help each other. Even between the involved
> departments/teams of
> Fedora in such, their work as moderators and promoters should
> be a must.
>
> - Cost/Benefits Relation > This should be positive for
> everyone
> involved. I'm not sure how design team faces such
> initiative... Fedora
> Design is very important, and this should be an accessory for
> their
> work, and of course a way to reinforce their ranks in number
> and gather
> more contributors/artists for Fedora Artwork/Design Teams.
> That should
> be our greatest benefict, plus providing a wider set or
> artwork on the
> release. Get more people signed on FAS in a friendly way.
> Break the Ice
> between Fedora and possible contributors. On the costs side...
> This is
> will require time and effort from at least: Ambassadors,
> Marketing,
> Design/Artwork and other teams of Fedora such as QA,
> packaging, etc. I
> would say that 20 submissions for Meta-Themes would be already
> a great
> win and would reward us all.
>
> For the rest, this is a very superficial approach, but if
> there is
> interest from Fedora on this, I will turn this into a more
> in-depth
> document and more objective.
>
> I believe we can try to do something different here and try
> to enlarge
> our community a bit, plus providing a bit more of community
> contributions.
>
> All the problems have solutions, we just need to identify
> them and work
> them out. I believe we have enough time between now and Fedora
> 14 theme
> selection to work out this in a way that we can kick in fast
> and
> aggressive soon after the main art theme is selected.
>
> I really would love to ear everyone's view about this, their
> own ideas
> on how to make better, their concerns, their critics...
> everything...
> only in possession of such information we can have a strong
> basis to
> work out soemthing like this.
>
> From my personal point, I'm willing to place 10 hours/week
> for such
> project and report to Marketing every single week about what
> has been
> achieved.
>
>
>
> Nelson.
>
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