On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 02:00:56PM -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Adam Williamson said the following on 04/20/2010 09:04 AM Pacific Time: > > So, Zarafa is getting a lot of press attention: > > > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=6298 > > > > some of it is fairly unflattering: > > > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3877446/Fedora-13-Beta-The-Seen-and-Troubling-Unseen.htm > > > > I'm a bit uncomfortable with this myself; the availability of Zarafa in > > Fedora seems to be being read in ways in which we certainly didn't > > intend it (as an aspect of commercialization, as some kind of Red > > Hat-parachuted feature and hence an indication of RH's future > > directions, etc). > > > > I'm wondering if perhaps we should pull Zarafa's mention as a 'feature' > > of Fedora 13, or if not that, then certainly develop a more coherent > > story about its inclusion, what it's for, why it's in Fedora, and the > > whole 'open core' angle on it... > > > > What do people think? > > Disagree. Our feature process does not require a "coherent story for > inclusion." :) > > This feature was added to Fedora through a purely community process by a > non-Red Hat person (someone correct me if I'm wrong). There was no > "driving force of Red Hat" behind it that I'm aware of and it should > remain on the list. > > This is not the first time the press has created alternate reality out > of our feature list. In Fedora 12 the news stories were all about > Moblin (exceptioned in by FESCo after feature freeze, just like Zarafa, > by another non-Red Hatter) and how this was Red Hat's attempt to > "compete head to head with Windows 7 in the netbook space." Considering > that the owner doesn't work for Red Hat that would have been a little > difficult :) > > To me these stories show that we might need to do a better job > explaining how our releases processes work and that *anyone* (regardless > of employer) can submit a feature for inclusion in a Fedora release. > > John John just provided a great idea for a feature profile for post-release: profiling how features themselves happen. Is there currently a list of proposals where we can add that? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing