Kaltura.com is a good alternative. The rule *should* be to use open standards whenever possible and convert content to non-free if needed. The only thing I wanted to pint out is that if s/o wants to remix content, he should be able to do it with open standards. So to reiterate - I do *not* oppose usinge youtube, I *do* want to stress however that "open first" should not be ignored. So I propose: - make content *always* available in open standards. - use youtube etc for distribution when alternatives suck, but *always* point the viewer to the open standard alternatives (in the description field etc) I hope you see that I am not a fundamentalist, I am pragmatic but I want to make sure we do it right. If we offer no oepn alternatives, THEN you will get the fundamentalist discussion - and for a good reason IMHO. Using your arguments in a little bit of exaggerated way would lead for example to using Adobe Illustrator for artwork, Photoshop for other stuff and would exclude those that don't have these tools ... Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: marketing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <marketing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat Apr 10 11:29:27 2010 Subject: Re: Fedora and Video Sharing On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 10:57 -0400, Jan Wildeboer wrote: > Youtube however uses the H.264 codec which is patent encumbered and only > viewable on Fedora after installing either (proprietary) Flash or > not-so-well-licensed codecs from external repos. > > One of the four F's of Fedora is Freedom. Youtube is not adding to > freedom. > Its the price you pay for convenience. What would you suggest for an reliable alternative that can provide: # user friendliness # decent connectivity # a wide audience as youtube? Up to this point, it's constructive. From this point on, it's a private view and should be faced as such. As a personal comment, for a second I saw that "freedom" almost as I see "despotism". It's because of the availability of proprietary software for Linux and close standards that I use it (and that makes of it an alternative to other proprietary OS's), else I would be stuck with Windows (as FOSS doesn't provide everything for users needs). I understand that we should promote open standards, but that will handicap a campaign and will probably not give as much impact as it would. Even for the artists making it, it's a huge cutdown on their efforts. Do we really need to be so narrow? can't we actually provide it both ways and make our official stuff on a non-offending format, but also make it available on youtube? "In America, through pressure of conformity, there is "freedom of choice", but nothing to choose from" - Peter Ustinov. nm PS: This comment translates a personal view. > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marketing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > <marketing-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > <marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sat Apr 10 10:17:18 2010 > Subject: Re: Fedora and Video Sharing > > > As long as the website offers good connectivity worldwide should be ok. > Youtube should be nice since it has akamai behind also. > > The importance of prime channels of distribution should be a concern, > and Youtube provides the necessary points for it, either from the > audience point of view or distribution. > > +1. > > nm > > > On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 16:23 -0400, Nicholas Ozorak wrote: > > Dear Anyone with an interest in video distribution, > > > > My name is Nick Ozorak, and I am one of the students from Allegheny > > College who has just come in to help with the Fedora Project. My > > particular field of expertise is in video creation and distribution, > > as I already have my own video-web series. I'm one of five students > > who's looking into the issue of how videos about Fedora can be > > distributed online. > > > > I saw in the archives that there was recently a discussion about > > Fedora and where videos showcasing the project should be hosted. > > Internet Archive was mentioned, as well as Dailymotion. Based off of > > my experience, both of these websites are decent places to host video, > > but they don't receive as much traffic as the granddaddy of them all - > > YouTube. As a consumer, when I am looking for videos regarding > > technological developments, YouTube is where I go first. > > > > I am aware that some people are uncomfortable with relying on YouTube > > and Flash, but there may be a solution to satisfy everyone. One idea > > that I have come up with is: > > > > * Set up official Fedora Project accounts on websites like Internet > > Archive and Dailymotion. > > > > * Create videos on these accounts to establish them as being > > officially part of the Fedora Project (welcome videos, tutorials, > > features of Fedora, etc). > > > > * Designate people to be official Fedora Project Video Account Managers. > > > > * Allow other video creators and content developers to showcase their > > Fedora-related work on the official channel(s) by sending their video > > to the Account Master(s) for consideration. If accepted, these videos > > would be added to the official channel. > > > > * Open a YouTube account, and ask people if they are comfortable with > > having their work(s) displayed on YouTube and/or other Flash-based > > websites. > > > > I'd be more than happy to discuss this idea in an IRC chat with those > > who are interested. I would also be curious to find out what results > > previous discussions about this issue have yielded and get a sense of > > what people's opinions are. > > > > I will also add that I had never heard of Fedora before one of my > > professors started discussing it in class. Once Mel Chua came to > > speak with our class and explain how this open-source community > > worked, I began to understand. Having videos that explain the goals > > of the Fedora Project to those who have heard little to nothing about > > the project would be extremely beneficial with regards to outreach. > > > > Thanks for reading, and good luck with preparing for the big release! > > > > Nick > > -- > Nelson Marques > PGP Fingerprint: 53E1 731B 85A4 A098 8382 8CFF 1AC7 AF01 7717 8063 > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- Nelson Marques PGP Fingerprint: 53E1 731B 85A4 A098 8382 8CFF 1AC7 AF01 7717 8063 -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
