https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_13_Talking_Points&diff=155754&oldid=155751 Mark, Good question you posted on the Talking points draft page on the Fedora wiki. Unfortunately, we folks on the Marketing team are writing these without specific domain knowledge about Java. Can you provide some edits here that will help us better cover this particular talking point, and why it's good for developers, without promoting non-free software? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing