On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 09:15:21PM -0500, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Jonas Karlsson > <jonas.karlsson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am I compleatly wrong or have anyone of you been asking the question, what > > is fedora? > > So I'm on both sides of the fence - Fedora contributor and RHEL > customer (as I suspect that many of us are). And the question does > come up a lot, so here's my "stock response": > > Fedora's goal is to be the best of what works today. RHEL's goal is > to be the best of what works and is supportable for the next 7 years. > These are fundamentally incompatible goals, which cannot be served by > one distribution. > > Fedora accomplishes it's goal by being a completely open and > transparent R&D lab, for both Red Hat and members of the community. > Anyone, whether you're working on Fedora in your spare time (as I do), > or if you have a mandate from your manager at Red Ha because they'd > like to see a particular feature in the next version of RHEL, can get > a feature into Fedora by following the same process. Let me make some > cases in point, using some features from Fedora 10. > > First, from the community side, Hans de Goede (now a Red Hat employee, > but that's really irrelevant - he wasn't when he started work on the > feature and is employed doing something completely different), decided > that we needed better webcam support in Fedora. He defined the > problem space, worked to implement the drivers required in the > upstream kernel, and packaged a library to provide v4l2 access to v4l1 > apps (sorry for the technical details there). > > >From the Red Hat "features we'd like to see in RHEL" side (note that > this is speculation as to the motivation for this feature, but pretty > educated speculation), libvirt (which is the hypervisor-agnostic > virtualization mangement layer in Fedora/RHEL) can now remotely > provision storage and perform remote installations. These features > were again implemented upstream (even though we are upstream for > libvirt), thus making the improvements available for any consumer of > libvirt, Fedora included, packaged in Fedora, put through a test plan, > and accepted. > > If it really were a fact that "Fedora is a perpetual beta of RHEL" > were true, two things would not be true: > > 1) The first feature would not be in Fedora, it provides very little > "enterprise" value (however does provide a lot of value in that we now > have a wider range of hardware that Just Works(TM) ). > > 2) I would not be a member of the Fedora Engineering Steering > Committee (FESCo) which decides on the technical direction of Fedora > and is in charge of the feature process. > > I'm sorry that this has been long, but I really think that this is a > really important topic, and we (Fedora Marketing) need to find a way > to spread this sort of messaging. Jon, this was a great explanation and reflects exactly the way I try to educate journalists who are reporting on Fedora. I would encourage anyone who wants to contribute to the Marketing team to generalize this onto a wiki page. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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