On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Unless the ffmpeg developers show a complete unwillingness to work > with us, then I will actively and vocally discourage any call to fork > the codebase. Its not clear to me if there has been a reasonable > discussion inside ffmpeg about the possibility of restructuring the > codebase if there were developers interested in doing it as part of > the ffmpeg roadmap. >From what I've read in various web rants, I think they're not interested... particularly I mean this long discussion thread, entitled "Using ffmpeg libs in an OSS project is a nightmare" - http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2005-August/002989.html which was linked from this blog page: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=148. The entry says: --- snip --- Guess what happens when someone complains to ffmpeg developers that their software management and API suck. Well, he gets answered repeatedly to include a CVS snapshot of ffmpeg and link statically against it, "like everyone does". Splendid. --- /snip --- More disturbing is comment 9039 at the blog, by one of the actual ffmpeg devs (and this was written in August last year) : --- snip --- Justin Says: That link to the ffmpeg-devel archives is 2 years old. Not that the problem has gotten any better, but there have at least been some good discussions on the topic since then. Inevitably they all lead to the same end though. The typical response from FFmpeg developers (and I am one of them) to making official releases is "we really don't have the time. do you have the time? do you want to do it?". So as long as nobody volunteers, it won't get done. It's not that most of us wouldn't like to see nice, clean, stable releases, it's that it is a *volunteer* project with nobody currently willing to give the time and effort to take on the task of release management. Gasper suggested that someone set up a site for unofficial releases. Well it's easier than that; just volunteer to create and maintain official ones." --- /snip --- Personally, I think stopping ffmpeg development for 2, 3 or even 6 months to do a code restructuring is indeed worth it (the mozilla guys did it, and now we have Firefox thanks to them). Perhaps it would be nice to ask the ffmpeg devs again, who knows? It might just work - specially coming from the Fedora marketing team ;-) -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list