2008/6/13 rafael liu <rafaelliu@xxxxxxxxx>:
tFrom what I get Markus is suggesting a "bundled" Fedora which would have all common and cool apps, so users don't have to search/install them.
I think a much reasonable approach would be to give users profiles, but much more focused than the package selector we have upon installation. I see this idea in Ubuntu with its flavors (Studio, Home Server, etc) and Debian with that primitive selector (Server, Notebook, etc).
There could be profiles such as Media Workstation, Developer Workstation, Server, Home User, etc. Those would just select appropriate packages in the already existent package selector in Anaconda.2008/6/13 Lucas Saboya <lucas@xxxxxxxxxx>:
--ok, so lets go modelling the stuff?On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Lucas Saboya wrote:That is the superset of *all* our packages. With the same tools used to produce it, anyone can create his own subset ("spin") with whatever he think is useful.
Actually, the Fedora Unity project releases a DVD and CD set of
EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE in Fedora in one set of install media. They
call it the "Everything Spin." The problem with this is... it is 4
DVDs or 23 CDs.
Ok, but dont you thing that 4 DVDs ou 23 CDs its a little HUGE amount of data, that sometimes wont be NEVER used by a normal user, that only wants to edit his/her videos or engage into a meeting ?
If he manage to prove the spin is useful for a large category of users, then it can be hosted on Fedora infrastructure (torrent). It is is even more useful than that, then it may get even hosted on the mirrors.
The trick is to produce a spin which is useful.It is hard because there are a lot of definition of what "common users" need. For example, it can be argued that common users do not need video/audio editors (see the "fedoraLife" subject of this thread) and that such applications are needed by a niche ("creative").
So is the point to make a more usable version of Fedora? Or is the
point to ship everything in the initial install?
What is the goal you are looking to achieve? It seems really unclear
to me.
The point is tho make a usable version of fedora, shipping not everything but just the things we KNOW that will help the common users that uses a PC just to do a PART of their work not US who can easily compile our own version of fedora and put everything we want on it. is that so hard to do, thing like common users ?:)
The first step is to produce something like this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest
Ready to roll up your sleeves?
Thats what I'm doing right now :)
So when are you going to show us some code?
let's go codding, so ! But remember that this is not the fedora developer list, its the MARKETING one :)
this means, the codding doesn't happen here, the idea of the email is to compile a concept of the programas we can put with fedora to make a clean and functional instalation.
And then, turn the list in a kickstart file. After that, producing the spin is only a matter of clicks.--
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