On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 10:36 -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: > 2008/3/10 Karsten 'quaid' Wade <kwade@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Any objections to adding a bullet to step 4? > > > > " * You must introduce yourself to the mailing list before you can be > > approved for the 'marketing' group." > > Hmm, I guess that 'fedorabugs' (which I'm semi-in charge of) is used > for the same stuff (as well as bugzilla access), and all that we > require for a barrier to entry there is cla_done, manually checked by > the sponsor (read: me) before approving the membership. Then why bother? One cannot request group entry until one has cla_done, but once having it, why put a human in the step? Why not make 'fedorabugs' auto-approved at that point? The reason for the human in the step, IMO, is to humanize the process of joining a group. Otherwise, we would get what group admins see all the time -- people create an account and join whatever group sounds interesting by name, without going to find out what that group is about, how to become part of it, etc. > It would be nice if various sub-groups of the project could agree on a > sane barrier for entry, for exactly the reasons that you mention that > I hadn't thought of before - namely voting. > > Note that I'm not against the requirement to be "known" prior to being > sponsored/approved, but I think that the requirement probably needs to > extend to all groups if we're going to make it a requirement. I'm not sure that all groups need the same requirement, although they should have _a_ specific requirement. There is a strong history for the self-introduction being the official "I'm joined" step. The practice is (or could be?) to check mailing list archives for a self-intro before approving someone to a group. > Now the big question - is FAS2 going to make all of this obsolete? Doubtful, since it doesn't include an AI component. :D > Done! Cool; I'm figuring we can grandfather anyone into the group who has been active on the list; we don't need to go back and ask for self-intros. -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41
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