On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Roberts <jonathan.roberts.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > We fix the problem by > > standing here and reminding people that Europe is not immune to this > > threat. It's real damn easy to pretend the problem is just a US > > issue...its not. Its a looming legal issue everywhere. We don't win > > long term by ignoring it. We'll have this same discussion every > > single release cycle.. and I'm okay with that. Patents are the biggest > > problem facing the open source ecosystem, and I'd rather have Fedora > > stand here and be a beacon for rational, passionate, discussion on the > > issue, than to just side step the issue for the sake of collecting a > > few more users in our userbase. > > > > > > I do not need to beat another linux distribution in terms of users for > > Fedora to achieve is core goals of fostering open innovation. > > I need 'enough' users... i need 'enough' upstream developers.. i need > > 'enough' maintainers.. I need 'enough' triagers... I need 'enough' > > artists... I need 'enough writers...I need 'enough' translators.... > > and give them 'enough' open infrastructure by which to communicate as > > partners in the process of open innovation. > > > > What I don't need is proprietary software. > > > > I don't need to be greedy for Fedora to reach its prime objectives. I > > am perfectly okay with other distribution existing and being popular. > > The future of ALL linux distributions runs through what is happening > > as part of Fedora...and I'm perfectly happy with that. > > OK, how about we try and turn this thread into some positive energy!? > > What's been said, that Fedora is here to take a stand and to help try > and change the legal issues that cause problems for those of us who > want to be creative and share with each other, is very true. I believe > that the majority of Fedora's contributing community are here and > taking part because they support this view. Jef's also said that this > conversation comes up during every release cycle - and even I've been > around long enough to see that this is true - so we must be doing > something wrong, somewhere, in communicating this part of our mission > to the outside world and newer members of our community. > > The questions I now have are: > > * Where are we going wrong currently? > * How can we make changes to improve this? > > The best selling point, imho, for free software is the freedom's that > it affords us. Likewise, Fedora's strongest selling point is the stand > it takes to help defend and make these freedoms available to anybody > who wants them. So how can we promote this better? I might reply to my > own thread in a while with my thoughts on this! > updates on -stable branch goes too fast! :P (well, at least thats the complain which I hear quite frequent). This caused regression problems. Things work at first, but breaks after an update. Being in fedora stable to them feels like being in -devel branch of other distros. Maybe revise the update policy?. > Best wishes, > > Jon > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list