On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Marc Wiriadisastra <marc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have to agree with Jef on this. +1 from me. Yes I use the ati drivers > and the flash plugin but I make sure I use open source ones every > release to see if it's fixed and post appropriate bugs. I did this with > the ipw3945 iwl3945 and now I don't need the ipw3945 drivers. This is > important because the bugs people report help the dev's fix the issues. This is the big cultural shift tha we need to find a way to communicate....to market. Everything in the technical laypress culture is about...consumption. Everything is treated like 'bits in a box.' We have to change this. We have to market the process of collaboration. That's the secret that we need to whisper into the ears of technojournals. Yes the bits are important, the bits are cool, but the secret sauce is the partnership between users and developers that drives things forward. That's the story we need people out there telling. Fedora as the active and vital meeting place between users and developers... not Fedora the 'bits in a box' that comes out every 6 months. The 6 month releases an important part of that dialog... but its not the dialog. We have to find a way to get stories about upstream projects working through Fedora to advance their development...Fedora as the path to a better tomorrow. We need to get technojounals talking about individual upstream projects, and get upstream projects praising us as helping them connect with users to drive development forward. -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list