The fundamental point about the discussion which says on fedora´s life cycle isn´t just the fact that Fedora has a short 6 month cycle and it´s ?just like that? as some of the present colleagues have clearly pointed. A lot of people love Fedora and dedicate much of their time to make it better and to spread it to increase its instalation basis (even here, in Brazil´s remote caverns). To me and to much more people, Fedora is not just a Linux distribution with which we work, it is a personal thing and to be part of it´s expansion is a reason for pride.
Obviously a Fedora´s fan wish to use it for any day-to-day tasks: it is powerfull, stable, reliable and solid, but when the subject is critic mission servers, the short cycle ends on a harmfull point. On such cases, any upgrade is considered high risk and I´m sure that you all agree with that. To use CentOS or Red Hat is a good choice, but that´s not the point; It isn´t the case to search alternatives, but to have for work one of the best distributions on the world and have to, unfortunately, give it up for great risk tasks where long cycles are better fit.
Do not forget that the people who make the Fedora team immense, frenetic and incomparably competent also has people around the world, including Brazil´s cavern men, who abdicate days off, nights and even college class time for love (as well as everyone here) to Fedora.
Regards
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De: Karsten Wade <kwade@xxxxxxxxxx>
Para: fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2007 17:29:28
Assunto: Re: Fedora Life Cycle
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 10:10 -0200, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
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> Hi all!!!
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> The Brazilian Translation Project has -1 translator.
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> What's the reason ?
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> He say that: "Now i'm working and using CENTOS and Red hat"
This doesn't make sense. Red Hat Enterprise Linux is 100% translated in
Fedora (upstream). How would a translator be able to work translating
just RHEL/CentOS?
> Why ??? THE FEDORA LIFE CYCLE!!!
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> Why he is going ?? "I contribute with the project that i use!"
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> So, if the users are using CENTOS, they will not contribute with the
> fedora project and it's a BIG sh......
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> Eu sou um Fedora Usuário / Contribuinte e vou continua a ser!
> But it has no meaning, thinking with yours arguments!
> My goal is to make the Fedora BEST TO USE and not the CENTOS/Red Hat. My
> goal is spread FEDORA and not CENTOS/Red Hat. My goal is see Fedora in
> Servers, Desktops and not CENTOS/Red Hat.
Do you think that Fedora needs to work for every situation? Must it fit
every need?
> For the red hat engeneers it's make sense, for me not! I don't receive
> money to do my job and to spread Fedora around all Brazilian states!
It's not just Red Hat employees. There are many more non-Red Hat
employees in the Fedora Project. Many have the same challenge you do.
All of us benefit from the rapid release cycle.
> I only receive support from Max and Thomas to viability that and i do
> this in te best way possible!
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> Only in 2007 I do 14 presentations of fedora and fedora project in
> events with 150/200 persons in each presentation. With my arguments the
> Brazilian Project had created local users groups in many states and
> recruit many collaborators to translation, documentation, packing and
> marketing project.
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> In Brazil we have a fedora web community with more than 8.000 persons
> using and testing fedora and I do this because I believe! I am here with
> my very bad English to defend it!
Heh, not so bad. :)
I think Paul's suggestion is really the only answer:
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2007-October/msg00321.html
Fedora the Linux distro has to choose what it is best at and not try to
be everything to everybody. But within the Fedora Project there is room
to spin Fedora in different ways, to expand the support lifecycle, and
so forth.
Just because Fedora Legacy didn't work doesn't mean the idea is a bad
one. It just turned out that the people involved in it *then* found
CentOS to be a better solution for them. You are describing a different
situation, many different people can make it happen.
With this new Fedora extended support idea, the team knows which
versions are going to get extended support (such as, every odd numbered
release.) Work on updating support docs, processes, tools, and putting
in special work can be done for that release in development.
Organizations that are planning to roll out this extended support
version should begin testing with the alpha or beta version. Then their
unique problems are more likely to be addressed, and can be fixed by the
very extended support engineers paid to do that work. Those
organizations gain a few months of planning so they can begin their roll
out closer to the version release date.
It's a very good idea, just waiting for someone who needs it enough to
make it happen. :)
- Karsten
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