On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 23:38 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > In the second Big Point Against Fedora is this (mis)statement: > "Fedora doesn't even include support for read-only access to NTFS > partitions." > Uh, I thought we had that one resolved and did offer ro access to NTFS? > Certainly put it into the release announcement and TalkingPoints. I've noted the FUSE driver in Fedora Extras since version 6 (5?). The FUSE (user-space) driver is the 3rd generation, which has solved some (all?) legal issues, as well as the nasty SAM-SID** write issue which still plagues NT itself**. The NTFS kernel driver was the 1st-2nd generations, which has the nasty SAM-SID issue**. That's why it is recommended you only mount read-only with that driver. -- Bryan **NOTE: I'm a long-time NT admin (since the 3.1 beta) and 99% of MSCEs are utterly ignorant of. It's getting worse now that external drives are shipping with NTFS. NTFS should _never_ be written to by any system _except_ those that created it, because of the local Registry's SAM (System Accounts Manager) and its SID (Security ID) tie-ins. The work-arounds are numerous (from the NT domain model with a "network-wide" SAM-SID to the Dynamic Disks/LDM Disk label in NT5+ aka 2000+ that store select SAM-SID info in non-filesystem portions of the disk). For the most part "home users" who run NT 5.1/6.0 "Home" editions (Windows XP/Vista Home) avoid it because you can't apply ACE (access control entries) to the NTFS filesystem from the GUI (only via the CACLS command at the CMD.EXE CLI). But it's still a major issue with "Pro users" who run NT 5.1/6.0 "Pro" editions (and, even more so, earlier versions like NT 5.0/2000). Making matters worse, there is _no_ "read-only" NTFS driver in NT itself. For NT 5.0 (let alone earlier) versions, you can quickly _trash_ a NTFS. For NT 5.1+ (XP/2003+), if the system detects SIDs in the NTFS filesystem it doesn't have it its local registry (or the network-wide registry of a NT domain -- and that includes the same SAM model stored in Active Directory Services, ADS), it often doesn't even let you see the filesystem. Opening up Disk Manager in NT5.1+/XP+ will show the NTFS filesystem there, but won't let you assign a drive letter or anchor point (anchor = NT's "UNIX-like" mount point option). -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, Technical Annoyance mailto:b.j.smith@xxxxxxxx http://thebs413.blogspot.com -------------------------------------------------------- Fission Power: An Inconvenient Solution -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list