Kudos to David Barzilay on his impatience about Fedora Marketing efforts. My comments inline below: * * * On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Stuart Ellis wrote: > I think that processes in themselves don't get things done... > Ultimately, things happen when a small group of people have a common > goal, and do whatever turns out to be necessary to make it happen. The > processes and infrastructure tend to follow after, e.g there is now a > mailing list for Websites because enough people became committed to the > idea of sorting out Fedora's Web presence. This is exactly right. PMI ideals are great, but they are secondary. Leadership comes first. I haven't had much time to participate; I've been mostly an observer, with some items on my plate, but mostly my focus has been on other things. That's about to change. > One way would be start with five or six concrete goals that have > support, and then go from there, e.g. "Have a Fedora presence at every > major Linux event in 2006". I have come to believe that the marketing list, as useful a forum as it is for exchanging ideas, is not a project, has not been a project, and will not be a project. If someone wants to step up to lead Fedora Marketing as a project, I'm happy to be proven wrong. But for now, realistically: it's a mailing list. Fedora Ambassadors, on the other hand, has CLEAR AND QUANTIFIABLE GOALS: * HAVE A PRESENCE AT EVERY LINUX EVENT WORLDWIDE IN 2006. That means: + Know where the events are and document them on the wiki. + Match up at least one Ambassador to every one of those events. + Make sure that every one of those Ambassadors has what they need to represent Fedora: a good message, DVDs, schwag, signage... and ideally, in the future, ca$h to make things happen. * REPRESENT FEDORA LOCALLY. That means: + Getting Fedora installed on systems. + Going to your local LUG/school/church/whatever and representing Fedora. + Spreading the word about Fedora in ANY WAY YOU SEE FIT. + Keeping the other ambassadors up-to-date on your doings. To further those goals, we need: * A chair. For now, Alex Maier is it, because she has put together the past two FUDCons, essentially by herself. If there are disagreements, join the Ambassadors project, and let's discuss it. * A steering committee. This should be the group of people who (a) (a) can meet every week or two, (b) can take action items and *complete* them, and (c) can attend events and act as the exemplars of the Ambassador program generally. Therefore: let me announce the official formation of the Fedora Ambassadors Project Management Committee. If you want to be part of this committee, please let Alex know. * Work items on a standing agenda. What do we need to do *every week*? Extras and Docs both have this, and have been very successful in driving these agendas. * A weekly meeting. Where we hold one another accountable, *every week*. Extras and Docs both have this, and they've been effective. Time zone is an issue, particularly for a worldwide ambassador program. For now, we've got a meeting time, but I think that we may want to alternate meeting times to suit different geos. === So. If this approach makes sense to you, then join the Ambassadors program RIGHT NOW: 1. SUBSCRIBE! https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list 2. PUT YOUR NAME ON THE WIKI! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList 3. BE AT OUR FIRST IRC MEETING! WHERE: irc.freenode.net, channel #fedora-mktg. WHEN: Thursday 17 November. 16:00 UTC, 11:00 Eastern US time. (Your timezone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list