Exactly right, Jeremy. Well said. Hey, maybe you could do *my* job! (Oh, wait...) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Jeremy Hogan wrote: > FWIW I think #1 is counter to the point of Fedora. If we do it right, > this won't need to be true. In fact, Red Hat's (real and perceived) > holding on so tightly to the reigns is probably 80% of what's not gone > right with this project. > > There is tremendous power to a mix of RH and non-RH spokespeople, the > most obvious of which is that folks have to take anything a RH staff > member says with the "publicly held always-for-profit" grain of salt. > As long as the spokespeople are informed, or can easily be in touch > with RH for coaching/info/feedback, RH's message will be part of the > Fedora message. Otherwise we will continue to re-inforce that this > project is purely for the benefit of, and at the whim of RH. > > Fedora has to appear free to become something other than what RH > dictates, or else it is nothing but a RHEL beta. > > The important thing is that we are in sync with RH on what the core > message is, and how to speak about RHs involvement. If we trust the > message, we can trust the messenger. > > --jeremy > > On 8/29/05, David Barzilay <barzilay@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > -- > > -- > > David Barzilay > > Brazilian Portuguese > > Technical Translator > > Red Hat Asia-Pacific > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: David Barzilay <barzilay@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk@xxxxxxxxxx>, Mark Webbink <mwebbink@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:58:31 +1000 > > Subject: Re: Fedora Foundation around the world > > On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:38 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > > And then I'd like your input on the idea of Community Marketing Contacts > > > (CMCs), and whether you think this is a sufficient body for getting > > > global input. > > > > Dear Greg and Mark, > > > > Initially, I believe the idea of Community Marketing Contacts is great! > > > > I don't know who are the people you intend choosing to cover the globe, > > but I have a few concerns I thought I should address here: > > > > 1) They have to be RedHatters, and native speakers of the specific > > language. Otherwise, I don't think they'll be able to thoroughly > > represent RH in a certain community nor understand their needs; > > > > 2) I know a few members of our i18n team > > (http://intranet.corp.redhat.com/ic/intranet/EngInternationalizationLocalization.html), who would probably enjoy the challenge, but majority of us is sited in Brisbane (Australia), so wouldn't make the local events and LUGs; > > > > 3) How are we dealing with laws in different countries (e.g.: I need a > > non-for-profit organization registration number to register a .org.br > > domain name in Brazil...) > > > > For a start, I'd suggest creating a Marketing Plan for the Fedora > > Foundation as if RH was launching a brand new product, allowing enough > > time for the Community Marketing Contacts to adapt the materials to all > > languages, and coordinating timely news publishing. > > > > Feel free to browse through our team's intranet page (above), and don't > > hesitate to contact me if your need further assistance. > > > > To request a Localization job, please go to: > > https://i18n.brisbane.redhat.com/rt3/index.html > > > > Thanks, > > -- > > David Barzilay > > Brazilian Portuguese > > Technical Translator > > Red Hat Asia-Pacific > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list