Re: Logo -- dog, tag (with element), but no hat?

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Michael Schwendt wrote:

>On 24/08/05, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
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>>The name "Fedora(TM)" itself is already a big-ass problem for Red Hat
>>Legal if that happens!  Because Shadow Man wears a Red Fedora!
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>No, that are two entirely different things. Same in the following:
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>>I mean, at what point can't another vendor call their distro "Gangster"
>>and put on a Gangster Fedora hat in the illustration?  
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>You're mixing trademarked names and trademarked logos/symbols, and
>that leads to nothing.  It would make no sense for Red Hat to create a
>confusing similarity between the "Red Hat" product line and the
>"Fedora" product line by mixing red hats with blue fedoras or red
>fedoras with blue hats or something like that, and using less
>restrictive trademark usage permissions for the Fedora stuff than for
>the Red Hat stuff. And I said confusing (!) similarity, not just
>similarity. It can be beneficial for both Red Hat and Fedora that it
>is widely known that Red Hat is a driving force behind the Fedora
>Project, too. But it would not do Red Hat Enterprise Linux any good if
>its fundamental differences compared with Fedora got buried in
>confusing usage of words, names, trademarks, mascots, and neither the
>red hat nor Shadow Man would be unique anymore. Of course, another
>vendor can call a distribution "Gangster", if that is desired. But as
>soon as they start using and advertising a logo which bears any close
>resemblance with Red Hat's "Shadow Man"(TM), in particular the red hat
>(!) he wears, they've got a problem, even if they choose a different
>colour.  Also note that Shadow Man wears a cloak, but that does not
>prohibit any vendor from using a figure which wears a cloak, too
>(unless the resemblance becomes too obvious, and at that point we're
>in a loop).
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This thread has already forked down that road and died.  I BEG you not
to rekindle that fire.  See the thread "Re: Logo -- let's move on ...
the legal loophole of "Fedora(TM)"    for Red Hat" for the whole
conversation.

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