Hi All, Although that was fairly constructive in relation to adding the wiki in the browsers for further clarification and helping out new users to links and the like could we possibly add fedora forum and maybe fedora faq. The only problem that might happen with adding those is that they suggest multimedia support and that might go against the grain of fedora or what fedora stands for. I think Karsten listed all the major ones that I read and I thought that weren't right. I installed FC4 and had no issues in fact I think its a major improvement granted there are bugs but being bleeding edge was the reason for me getting involved with fedora. I wonder whether he filled bug reports? IMO most of the complaints centred around multimedia which I managed to get going very quickly anyway in my install. He's trying apt compared to yum albeit it worked before but the repositories take time to update for apt. Compared to yum which updates rapidly. Also I believe the majority of apt repositories are NOT fedora-extras or the 'genuine' fedora repository correct me if I'm wrong. The problem is this is a linux guy that has spread FUD and I'm not sure how many people believe him so I'm wondering how many people /won't/ try fedora because of this. Its hard enough facing other OS FUD let alone facing it from inside. I'm assuming that its a fine line between honest criticism and actual misinformation. IMO as well is that articles like this need to be dealt with in some way by the 'marketing' group so that as a group we can progress towards people knowing exactly what fedora is and isn't. The long term users understand, but the new users don't understand and they would be reading articles like this and saying well thats a buggy os I'm definately not trying it now. I don't feel that we want Fedora to become an experienced user distro because fresh blood is great for finding bugs as well as putting genuine ideas forward that people maybe have not considered. -- Regards Marc Wiriadisastra Choice Tyre Wholesalers > On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 09:15 +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote: >> Hi All, >> I don't know if this has been posted on the list or not but situations like this need to be looked at because it can only hinder the progress of >> Fedora over time unfortunately. >> http://distrocenter.linux.com/distrocenter/05/07/11/2327245.shtml?tid=107&tid=127 > > I don't think this has been posted, and we definitely appreciate postings to this list of all review of Fedora. Rahul, for one, takes the effort to contact writers and set them straight on the facts. > > I can see what directions in that article I think need correction. I'm curious what you see? > > * Worrying about OOo being beta. FC is specifically cutting edge. Mincing words about beta in a release is contrary to the spirit and history of highly advancing open source. Beta and release are > subjective terms. > > "While I've had no problems with it and no crashes, a beta release in > what is considered to be a stable operating system feels out of place." > > * Totally not understanding the story behind patent infringing > technologies. > > "Worse, Fedora Core 4 gets low marks for multimedia. I encountered an > overwhelming number of bugs in this area. There is no support for proprietary formats such as Windows Media, DVD, and MP3, though having used past Red Hat/Fedora releases, I would expect nothing more. Previously, enabling these multimedia types was not a hard task, but this time, it's daunting." > > * Not even attempting to understand the difference between what is in the distro and what is supplied by other repositories: > > "I tried enabling these proprietary media files the same way I did > this in previous Fedora releases, which was to install Apt4RPM, a great package management tool, and use that to install the necessary packages. That worked in previous Fedora releases, but not in Fedora Core 4." > > All in all, a very annoying read. Thanks for sharing with us. :) > > - Karsten > -- > Karsten Wade, RHCE * Sr. Tech Writer * http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41 > Red Hat SELinux Guide > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/selinux-guide/ > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
