On 6/24/05, Mike MacCana <mikem@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Er, why? Why does targeting (or 'pandering to') an audience mean you > will likely mislead them more or less than if you scatter your message > to the universe? Because I don't think fedora or any other distribution is the obvious choice for any particular group of people or individual person. Firefox, openoffice, codeweavers... these items exist in a near vacuum of choice and by their very nature they have a clear directive to market towards existing windows users. I'm not sure fedora has such a clear directive nor is fedora positioned to be the "one true alternative" in the space where its operating. Linux distributions are like breeds of dogs. How exactly do you market one breed of dog compared to another breed of dog successfully to the casual dog buyer? The casual dog buyer, who doesn't really know the maintainence issues and temperament of each breed. And they only experience with pet ownership previous was a gerbil. You make a mistake and you pair a dog with an owner that is a poor match.. and it can end tragically. Popularity of a breed drives initial interest, but it also leads to a high rate of abadonment. http://www.petsandmore.ca/Vbreedinfo.html I want to make sure we don't herd people to the answers we think they want, simply because we have a vested interest in this one breed. I'd rather help people to the linux distribution that works best for them. If its not fedora.... I am perfectly okay with that. I'd rather see us help guide the linux courious into asking the right questions and making the right choices for themselves. If that means mepis or ubuntu or mandrake or knoppix or even fedora... great! > Then you'd rather avoid marketing. There might be a deep truth to that. I'm intimately aware that I might be a poor fit for this part of the project. If my ideas are contrary to the momentum and direction of activities, I'll gladly fade into the background in this part of the overall fedora project effort and let others play a strongly role. > The Linux curious will try a Linux distro. Because they want to. Indeed. My issues are more about the tone of the engagement than the effort to engage. I'm wary of a goal that is narrowly defined to be "Get people interested in Fedora" I would be much happier if the goal was "Get people interested in trying linux, including Fedora" > > Chances are, with Gentoo's screaming 'watching text scroll by makes me a > Linux expert' zealots and Debian's 'troll angrily and loudly on every > Fedora story on Slashdot' approach, it'll be either Debian or Gentoo. > > Do you think that technically minded user, who's nevertheless used to > Windows, would be happier with a distro that can probe his monitor, or > one that'll ask him for 'modelines', when he doesn't know what they are? This is what I am very wary of. I do not believe its in the linux community's best interest to draw direct comparisons between this distro versus any other. "You're cocker-spaniel is totally not as good for a first time dog owner as my golden retriever." I do not believe that its approprate to imply that Fedora is superior to Gentoo or to Debian. I want to make sure that we focus on having people ask questions and draw their own conclusions about what is valuable to them. Fedora should be the Progressive Car Insurance Company of the linux distributions. If a linux 'competitor' is a better fit for you... great... glad to have helped you find a linux solution that works best for you. > > I think the website should focus on how to take "action". > > Yeah you could call it...getfedora.org! Let them know what the CD (and > the real distro) can do, and what it can't as well. I have no feelings about yet another domain name. My comments are directed at the tone and the content of whatever website is going to be used to interact with potential fedora users. -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list