> anyway, unless we coalesce and find direction then we are twisting in > the wind. > Fedora has a huge user base, but I know personally of many defections > to Ubuntu in the last few weeks, just from friends of mine, so it's > not a broad sample, but I believe indicative. > I don't know how many ways I can say this but it's not a 'defection to ubuntu' That's a really bad point of view to get locked into and I'd like to discourage it. -sv