On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 14:08 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 12:55, Matthias Saou wrote: > > Why pick _one_ when it's trivial to evaluate the level of safety a given > > buildroot has for the Fedora build system? That extra "id" execution is > > totally useless with mock, and I simply dislike adding useless stuff. > > Any useless stuff, anywhere. > > > > %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root > > > > Is shorter than what is now _mandatory_, just as safe/unsafe with mock, > > which is what we encourage all users to use for builds anyway. And it > > saves that useless "id" execution. > > Given that mock is a clean root each time, just %{_tmppath}/%{name} is > enough. However this rule isn't for use in mock, this rule was brought up > and contested for uses outside of mock, particularly by Ralf Corsepius. For the record: My issue is: IMO, the default settings rpmbuild uses, must be safe against arbitrary users running rpmbuild in a multi user environment. %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release} does not suffice this criterion. It fails in a multiuser environment when rpmbuild leave behind %rpmbuild, e.g.: su -l user1 rpmbuild -ba xxxx.spec <rpmbuild fails, files remain in %buildroot> ... su -l user2 rpmbuild -ba xxxx.spec <rpmbuild fails, because files in %buildroot are owned by user1> This situation typically happens in situations, when co-workers share a machine but work on the same project or a user is using several accounts on the same machine. %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) suffices this criterion. > > If a mktemp based buildroot which actually fixes real issues is found, > > I'll have absolutely no problem switching to that! > > Ralf should be able to point out these problems which a mktemp based solution > would fix. c.f. above. Unfortunately, AFAICT, certain types of rpmbuild invocations seem to invoke executables contained in %buildroot several times. i.e. any command returning different values in subsequent invocations durning rpmbuild-runs will not be applicable (mktemp, timestamps etc.) Ralf -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list