On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:48:31 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Can (or will) the new shiny package database contain a 'last reviewed' > field? Yes, there will be a "reviewed" field, with a date, the ID of the reviewer and a URL pointing to the review > We could sort on that and go thru the list from oldest to > newest. Yup > I don't think thats a very good idea personally... If a re-review of a > package shows problems, why not file them as bugs? The maintainer can > explain why they might not be real bugs, etc.. also as a bonus this > could show a package that could be orphaned due to lack of maintainer > response. I tend to like the bugzilla way too. On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:07:41 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > If you really really want to do this, we should really really take a > very hard look at toolizing some of the review process, as has been > mentioned before. The more specific policy items we can script checks > for the less manpower we will need to burn on re-reviews. Granted not > everything that needs to be reviewed can be toolized or scripted, but > certainly specific policy item that have evolved over time could be, > like the python-abi defines, or the setting of the Fedora-Extras > Category in desktop files. A few tools could help. I was semi-daydreaming some sort of exploded review entry in the package database, where each must/should item has its own entry, date of checking, who did the check, that sort of thing. It sounds darn heavy-weight, but on the other hand, new must/should item could be checked individually when new packaging rules are devised, and some of them could be checked by tools like you suggest... > I believe re-reviews would have value, but without new tools in place > to script some of the checking we will continue to be too manpower > poor for this to be worthwhile compared to other work. Agreed. > In the meantime, if a lack of a review trail for fedora.us era > packages is blocking the ability to spin-up new and interesting > downstream projects as Jesse suggests, then its worth doing something > about that now since there is an additional payoff other than general > cobweb removal. I did some heavy trimming of my missing_review list, removing packages appearing before July 2005, and also attempting to remove packages resulting from name changes. I now have this short list of 82 packages that appear to be recent, but where I can't find the review ticket. I already tracked one to a typo in the review ticket summary field. If a few kind souls have a little spare time, they might lend a hand to help further shrink this list. I guess we'll soon need a lore-master... telling us the story of packages old and new... sounds like a fitting time of the year to tell stories that start with "Once upon a time" :-) Cheers, C ---- andreas bawue net dd_rescue andreas bierfert lowlatency de koffice-langpack andreas bierfert lowlatency de koffice andreas bierfert lowlatency de libetpan bdpepple ameritech net galago-filesystem bdpepple ameritech net telepathy-filesystem cgoorah yahoo com au kadischi dakingun gmail com exaile danken cs technion ac il tetex-fonts-hebrew denis poolshark org NetworkManager-vpnc devrim commandprompt com python-psycopg2 dm mensa se initng-ifiles enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de gif2png eric tanguy univ-nantes fr qucs extras-orphan fedoraproject org alacarte extras-orphan fedoraproject org at-poke extras-orphan fedoraproject org gstreamer08-python extras-orphan fedoraproject org lirc-kmod-common extras-orphan fedoraproject org lirc-kmod extras-orphan fedoraproject org roundup extras-orphan fedoraproject org thinkpad-kmod-common extras-orphan fedoraproject org thinkpad-kmod extras-orphan fedoraproject org v2strip green redhat com ladspa-swh-plugins hamzy us ibm com sblim-cmpi-devel hamzy us ibm com sblim-testsuite hamzy us ibm com sblim-wbemcli hamzy us ibm com tog-pegasus jamatos fc up pt fftw2 jamatos fc up pt pyparsing jima beer tclug org bwm-ng jnovy redhat com nedit jonathan underwood gmail com emacs-common-muse joost cnoc nl fpc jspaleta gmail com gpodder j w r degoede hhs nl dia j w r degoede hhs nl worminator-data lmacken redhat com python-formencode lmacken redhat com python-paste-deploy lmacken redhat com python-paste-script lmacken redhat com python-sqlobject luya_tfz thefinalzone com gdesklets matthias rpmforge net liboil ndbecker2 gmail com filelight ndbecker2 gmail com uncrustify orion cora nwra com python-numarray paul all-the-johnsons co uk gconvert paul all-the-johnsons co uk gtksharp paul all-the-johnsons co uk lib765 paul all-the-johnsons co uk libdsk paul xelerance com gaim-otr paul xelerance com libotr petersen redhat com ddskk pnasrat redhat com splint qspencer ieee org ufsparse rdieter math unl edu uw-imap somlo cmu edu argus splinux fedoraproject org gdmap splinux fedoraproject org glipper splinux fedoraproject org gstm splinux fedoraproject org pessulus steve silug org perl-Unix-Statgrab tagoh redhat com apel tagoh redhat com Canna tagoh redhat com kasumi tcallawa redhat com compat-wxPythonGTK2 tcallawa redhat com pam_pkcs11 tcallawa redhat com perl-Class-Accessor tcallawa redhat com perl-Class-Whitehole tcallawa redhat com perl-DBD-SQLite2 tcallawa redhat com perl-UNIVERSAL-exports tcallawa redhat com perl-UNIVERSAL-moniker tcallawa redhat com stripesnoop thomas apestaart org libannodex thomas apestaart org libcmml thomas apestaart org liboggz thomas apestaart org mod_annodex tscherf redhat com libpreludedb ville skytta iki fi xemacs-packages-base wart kobold org iwidgets yufanyufan gmail com audacious-itouch zing fastmail fm mmv -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list
