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Re: Possible wxWidgets-2.8 problem (rawhide) (Matthew Miller) 8. Fedora Extras Package Build Report 2006-12-17 (buildsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 9. Re: Possible wxWidgets-2.8 problem (rawhide) (Paul) 10. Naming Guidelines Clarification for plugins, docklets etc (Christoph Wickert) 11. Re: Naming Guidelines Clarification for plugins, docklets etc (Frank B?ttner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: 16 Dec 2006 13:13:01 -0600 From: Jason L Tibbitts III <tibbs@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: compat-guile-devel conflicts with guile-devel To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <ufar6uzslhe.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> "TL" == Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: TL> /me would feel way saver if we could maintain a detailed list of TL> situation like this where conflicts might be okay; I don't think we have a detailed list of such situations. We'd have to evaluate a bunch of possibilities first, and that work hasn't been done. Folks are welcome to propose situations where Conflicts: might be reasonable, preferably by adding them to the draft at http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/Conflicts#ProposedConflictsSituations so that the situation can be evaluated. - J< ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:07:25 +0100 From: "Marcel J.E. Mol" <marcel@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: (4/4) Summary - Broken dependencies in Fedora Extras - 2006-12-15 To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20061216200725.GN28307@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 01:41:45PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:30:29 +0100, Marcel J.E. Mol wrote: > > > goffice and gnumeric also need rebuilds againts latest libgsf: > > > > # rpm -Uvh libgsf-1.14.3-2.x86_64.rpm libgsf-devel-1.14.3-2.x86_64.rpm > > error: Failed dependencies: > > libgsf-gnome-1.so.114()(64bit) is needed by (installed) goffice-0.2.1-2.fc6.x86_64 > > libgsf-gnome-1.so.114()(64bit) is needed by (installed) gnumeric-1.6.3-5.fc6.x86_64 > > > > No. Upgrade libgsf-gnome, too. my bad, I totally overlooked the 'gnome' part. Thanks! -Marcel ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:56:02 -0500 (EST) From: buildsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Fedora Extras Package Build Report 2006-12-16 To: fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20061216225602.2637015212E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Packages built and released for Fedora Extras development: 28 Pound-2.2-1.fc7 anjuta-2.0.2-13.fc7 audacious-plugins-1.2.5-3.fc7 aumix-2.8-11.fc7 contacts-0.2-1.fc7 dates-0.2-1.fc7 gcstar-1.0.0-1.fc7 gnubiff-2.2.4-1.fc7 htop-0.6.5-1.fc7 jd-1.8.1-0.3.cvs061216.fc7 kawa-1.8-12.fc7 lilypond-2.10.2-2.fc7 mISDN-1.0.3-1 mimedefang-2.58-2.fc7 mkvtoolnix-1.8.1-2.fc7 NEW museek+-0.1.12-4.fc7 nazghul-0.5.5-3.fc7 ochusha-0.5.99.64.11-0.1.cvs061216.fc7 openvrml-0.16.2-2.fc7 perl-Alien-wxWidgets-0.25-2.fc7 perl-POE-Component-IRC-5.17-1.fc7 perl-POE-Filter-Zlib-1.8-1.fc7 perl-Wx-0.66-1.fc7 python-protocols-1.0-0.4.a0dev_r2082.fc7 python-psycopg-1.1.21-6.fc7 pyxmms-2.06-4.fc7 NEW xarchiver-0.4.9-0.1.20061213svn.fc7 zaptel-1.4.0-6.beta3.fc7 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 6: 17 Pound-2.2-1.fc6 audacious-plugins-1.2.5-2.fc6 aumix-2.8-11.fc6 enigma-1.0-1.fc6 gcstar-1.0.0-1.fc6 gnomesword-2.1.10-1.fc6 NEW gourmet-0.12.2-2.fc6 htop-0.6.5-1.fc6 koffice-1.6.1-4.fc6 lilypond-2.10.2-2.fc6 mISDN-1.0.3-1.fc6 mimedefang-2.58-2.fc6 NEW museek+-0.1.12-4.fc6 openvrml-0.16.2-2.fc6 perl-POE-Component-IRC-5.17-1.fc6 perl-POE-Filter-Zlib-1.8-1.fc6 zaptel-1.4.0-6.beta3.fc6 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 5: 9 Pound-2.2-1.fc5 aumix-2.8-11.fc5 gcstar-1.0.0-1.fc5 htop-0.6.5-1.fc5 lilypond-doc-2.10.2-1.fc5 mimedefang-2.58-2.fc5 NEW museek+-0.1.12-4.fc5 perl-POE-Component-IRC-5.17-1.fc5 perl-POE-Filter-Zlib-1.8-1.fc5 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 4: 0 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 3: 0 For more information about the built packages please see the repository or the Fedora Info Feed: http://fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:10:00 +0000 From: Paul <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Possible wxWidgets-2.8 problem (rawhide) To: fedora-extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1166353800.21598.21.camel@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, Can one of the packagers of wxWidgets (rawhide) please have a go at compiling XaraLX with it - I just need verification that I'm not going completely insane before diving into the code to fix things for wx2.8. It currently compiles fine with 2.6 TTFN Paul -- "Mmmmmmmm....Shakira geschmiert mit schokolade" sagt Homer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought about it some more: I don't think it's worth the work investigating all the (un)acceptable usage cases for Conflicts now, as it would be a lot of work. Maybe the easiest thing would be to over time maintain and enhance a list of (un)acceptable usage cases for Conflicts in the wiki. But the Packaging Commitee members and/or Sponsors simply should be allowed to update it without much trouble; getting a ACK for each litte update of this list from FESCo or the Packaging Committee is IMHO to much overhead/to complicated... CU thl ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:36:35 -0500 From: Dan Williams <dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Please rebuild/fix plague for python 2.5 To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1166366195.2757.0.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 00:17 +0900, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've just requested a couple of blind (untested) python-2.5 related > > rebuilds, these are untested because I cannot update my development > > system to python 2.5, because plague hasn't been rebuild yet. > > > > Thus this mail as encouragement to rebuild / fix plague, Thanks! > > > > Regards, > > Well, as I wrote previously, Jason Tibbitts has already rebuilt > plague against 2.5 and this will be released as 0.4.4.1-3. > However, this (0.4.4.1-3) does not work because of the issue > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=214687 > > Please someone see this bugzilla and give a > solution? The patch suggested by Robert Scheck works for me, > however I don't know if this is a correct solution. I'll commit that fix today, or if not today, definitely tomorrow. I'm somewhat suspicious of Python 2.5 since plague uses a _lot_ of overrides of stuff in the network bits to do SSL; but we'll likely only find that breakage through testing. Dan ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:25:50 -0500 From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Possible wxWidgets-2.8 problem (rawhide) To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20061217152550.GA4561@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 11:10:00AM +0000, Paul wrote: > Can one of the packagers of wxWidgets (rawhide) please have a go at > compiling XaraLX with it - I just need verification that I'm not going > completely insane before diving into the code to fix things for wx2.8. I'll try to look on Monday. > It currently compiles fine with 2.6 I enabled 2.6 compatibility in the build, so theoretically anything that worked with 2.6 should work -- unless it was depending on 2.2 compatibility, which is now gone. -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:33:04 -0500 (EST) From: buildsys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Fedora Extras Package Build Report 2006-12-17 To: fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20061217153304.CDA9915212E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Packages built and released for Fedora Extras development: 17 emelfm2-0.3.1-1.fc7 NEW fontypython-0.2.0-4.fc7 inotify-tools-3.6-1.fc7 jd-1.8.1-1.fc7 perl-Alien-wxWidgets-0.26-1.fc7 perl-Data-Hierarchy-0.34-2.fc7 perl-Log-Dispatch-2.15-2.fc7 perl-PerlIO-eol-0.14-1.fc7 perl-SVN-Mirror-0.72-1.fc7 perl-WWW-Babelfish-0.16-1.fc7 perl-Wx-0.67-1.fc7 php-pear-DB-DataObject-1.8.5-1.fc7 php-pear-XML-Util-1.1.4-1.fc7 pyflowtools-0.3-8.fc7 tachyon-0.97-4.fc7 tor-0.1.1.26-1.fc7 xine-lib-1.1.3-2.fc7 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 6: 15 NEW conky-1.4.5-2.fc6 emelfm2-0.3.1-1.fc6 NEW fontypython-0.2.0-4.fc6 jd-1.8.1-1.fc6 perl-Alien-wxWidgets-0.26-1.fc6 perl-Data-Hierarchy-0.34-2.fc6 perl-Log-Dispatch-2.15-2.fc6 perl-PerlIO-eol-0.14-1.fc6 perl-SVN-Mirror-0.72-1.fc6 perl-WWW-Babelfish-0.16-1.fc6 perl-Wx-0.67-1.fc6 php-pear-DB-DataObject-1.8.5-1.fc6 php-pear-XML-Util-1.1.4-1.fc6 tor-0.1.1.26-1.fc6 xine-lib-1.1.3-2.fc6 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 5: 12 NEW fontypython-0.2.0-4.fc5 jd-1.8.1-1.fc5 perl-Alien-wxWidgets-0.26-1.fc5 perl-Data-Hierarchy-0.34-2.fc5 perl-Log-Dispatch-2.15-2.fc5 perl-PerlIO-eol-0.14-1.fc5 perl-SVN-Mirror-0.72-1.fc5 perl-WWW-Babelfish-0.16-1.fc5 perl-Wx-0.67-1.fc5 php-pear-DB-DataObject-1.8.5-1.fc5 php-pear-XML-Util-1.1.4-1.fc5 tor-0.1.1.26-1.fc5 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 4: 0 Packages built and released for Fedora Extras 3: 1 duplicity-0.4.2-4.fc3 For more information about the built packages please see the repository or the Fedora Info Feed: http://fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:58:50 +0000 From: Paul <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Possible wxWidgets-2.8 problem (rawhide) To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1166371130.21598.29.camel@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi, > > Can one of the packagers of wxWidgets (rawhide) please have a go at > > compiling XaraLX with it - I just need verification that I'm not going > > completely insane before diving into the code to fix things for wx2.8. > > I'll try to look on Monday. Thanks. The problem is that gridlayout.h can't find wxTimer - I've tried this under both x86 and x86_64 with no success. > > It currently compiles fine with 2.6 > > I enabled 2.6 compatibility in the build, so theoretically anything that > worked with 2.6 should work -- unless it was depending on 2.2 compatibility, > which is now gone. Nope, it's designed for use with 2.4 and 2.6 TTFN Paul -- "Mmmmmmmm....Shakira geschmiert mit schokolade" sagt Homer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So we should at least have a "parent" or common prefix like "gnome" or "xfce", but ATM we have: * autobuild-applet: Panel applet for monitoring Test-AutoBuild server status * bubblemon: A system monitoring dockapp * contact-lookup-applet: Applet which allows you to search your Evolution address book * deskbar-applet: A Gnome applet to allow easy access to various search engines * gai-pal: GAI Pal applet * gai-temp: GAI based applet that displays HDD and CPU temperature * glunarclock: GNOME applet that displays the current lunar phase * gnome-applet-music: A GNOME panel applet to control various music players * gnome-applet-netmon: GNOME Network Load Applet * gnome-applet-netspeed: GNOME applet that shows traffic on a network device * gnome-applet-rhythmbox: A GNOME panel applet to control Rhythmbox's playback * gnome-applet-sensors: Gnome panel applet for hardware sensors * gnome-applet-timer: A countdown timer applet for the GNOME panel * gnome-applet-vm: Simple virtual domains monitor which embeds themselves in the GNOME panel (Core package) * gnome-cpufreq-applet: CPU frequency scaling monitor applet * lock-keys-applet: A GNOME panel applet that shows the status of the lock keys * padevchooser: Control applet for PulseAudio * panelfm: Quick File Manager Applet * verbiste-gnome: GNOME Panel applet for Verbiste (subpackage of verbiste) * wp_tray: A wallpaper-changing applet for GNOME Pending packages: * 219932 driconf - A configuration applet for the for the Direct Rendering Infrastructure * 218600 resapplet - Resolution Switching Applet * 174290 HDate-applet is an applet to show the hebrew date Options: 1. Make everything gnome-applet-<foo>, this is used for most packages atm and allows nice sorting 2. Make everything gnome-<foo>-applet, just like all the xfce4-panel-plugins: This is closer to the upstream names in most cases and might be better for packages like resapplet, wich would simply become gnome-resapplet instead of something stupid like gnome-applet-res or gnome-applet-resapplet (gnome-applet-resolution would be least worse) 3. Don't be so pedantic, only rename packages to their parent, the rest is maintainer's decision 4. Leave everything as it is now and don't make so much noise. I think we should at least agree on 1. a common prefix 2. a clarification of the naming/packaging guidelines 3. an addition to the guidelines: packages that don't use the upstream name should have a Provides: with the original name to allow simple installs Ideas? Christoph ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:44:04 +0100 From: Frank B?ttner <frank-buettner@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Naming Guidelines Clarification for plugins, docklets etc To: Discussion related to Fedora Extras <fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <458573D4.5040401@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Christoph Wickert schrieb: > Hi all, > > I think we need a clarification of the naming guidelines for plugins > like panel applets, docklets and so on. > >> Addon Packages (General) >> If a new package is considered an "addon" package that enhances or >> adds a new functionality to an existing Fedora Core or Fedora Extras >> package without being useful on its own, its name should reflect this >> fact. >> >> The new package ("child") should prepend the "parent" package in its >> name, in the format: %{parent}-%{child}. > > So we should at least have a "parent" or common prefix like "gnome" or > "xfce", but ATM we have: > > * autobuild-applet: Panel applet for monitoring Test-AutoBuild > server status > * bubblemon: A system monitoring dockapp > * contact-lookup-applet: Applet which allows you to search your > Evolution address book > * deskbar-applet: A Gnome applet to allow easy access to various > search engines > * gai-pal: GAI Pal applet > * gai-temp: GAI based applet that displays HDD and CPU temperature > * glunarclock: GNOME applet that displays the current lunar phase > * gnome-applet-music: A GNOME panel applet to control various > music players > * gnome-applet-netmon: GNOME Network Load Applet > * gnome-applet-netspeed: GNOME applet that shows traffic on a > network device > * gnome-applet-rhythmbox: A GNOME panel applet to control > Rhythmbox's playback > * gnome-applet-sensors: Gnome panel applet for hardware sensors > * gnome-applet-timer: A countdown timer applet for the GNOME panel > * gnome-applet-vm: Simple virtual domains monitor which embeds > themselves in the GNOME panel (Core package) > * gnome-cpufreq-applet: CPU frequency scaling monitor applet > * lock-keys-applet: A GNOME panel applet that shows the status of > the lock keys > * padevchooser: Control applet for PulseAudio > * panelfm: Quick File Manager Applet > * verbiste-gnome: GNOME Panel applet for Verbiste (subpackage of > verbiste) > * wp_tray: A wallpaper-changing applet for GNOME > > Pending packages: > * 219932 driconf - A configuration applet for the for the Direct > Rendering Infrastructure > * 218600 resapplet - Resolution Switching Applet > * 174290 HDate-applet is an applet to show the hebrew date > > Options: > 1. Make everything gnome-applet-<foo>, this is used for most > packages atm and allows nice sorting > 2. Make everything gnome-<foo>-applet, just like all the > xfce4-panel-plugins: This is closer to the upstream names in > most cases and might be better for packages like resapplet, wich > would simply become gnome-resapplet instead of something stupid > like gnome-applet-res or gnome-applet-resapplet > (gnome-applet-resolution would be least worse) > 3. Don't be so pedantic, only rename packages to their parent, the > rest is maintainer's decision > 4. Leave everything as it is now and don't make so much noise. > > I think we should at least agree on > 1. a common prefix > 2. a clarification of the naming/packaging guidelines > 3. an addition to the guidelines: packages that don't use the > upstream name should have a Provides: with the original name to > allow simple installs > > Ideas? > > Christoph > Yes this will be an good idear, for all plug-ins, to make an clear naming convention. Frank. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 4285 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/attachments/20061217/562fce4c/smime.bin ------------------------------ -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list End of fedora-extras-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 36 **************************************************
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