Hello, Seems to me that the page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/OrphanedPackagesFC4 doesn't have all the packages listed on http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-PackageChanges (minus the one imported, like w3c-libwww). I am not convinced that the page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/OrphanedPackagesFC4 is really usefull anyway as the packages should be taken based on the interest of packagers, the fact that they come from core isn't that important. It could be usefull for those who want to keep up using a package and for smooth upgrades using yum, to let them know that the package is likely to be problematic. But then it should better be on release notes and not there. -- Pat -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list