Re: RFC: docs website layout demo

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On 10/13/2014 12:34 AM, Jeff Fearn wrote:
> On 10/10/2014 08:30 PM, Jeffrey Fearn wrote:
> > Hi, Rudi asked me to do a demo of how Fedora could make a rebuilt
> docs website look, so I've made a demo site & tweaked it a bit. Before
> I spend too much effort on it I thought I'd open it up for input.
>
> > I wanted to get a bit more done before the weekend, but time slipped
> away. I wanted to get it out for some feedback over the weekend so I
> can do some more on Monday, so I'd thought I'd just put it out there
> and hope
> > people can understand it is only half baked.
>
> > Some of the stuff I did for this I liked so I've started migrating
> the template changes back in to publican, leaving this site with just
> some colour changes on what a default web_style 2 site will look like.
> I'll
> > update my fedora people site next week so show what a default site
> will look like.
>
> > I've made a script to pull out most of the docs packages from git,
> and run through a bunch of branches per book, and try to build them
> with the latest publican. I'll make the script available next week for
> people who
> > want to build their own copy. It should be useful to QA the process
> as it spits out a log file out for each repo and branch so you can get
> a good list of what's broken and what's not. I'll also put those up on my
> > fedora people site next week ... If I have any quota left :D
>
> I've pushed this on to the demo site [1], comments at the top hold the
> instructions.
>
> It needs tweaks to docsite-publican, hope to get those committed soon.
>
> It also needs Fedora_Splash which contains the blurb on the Fedora
> products page and the groupings, not sure what to do about that.
>
> It will still work without those things, it just won't look exactly
> the same.
>
> > Demo site is https://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/fdocs/en-US/index.html
>
> > I think this is a pretty good layout
> https://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/fdocs/en-US/index.html#Fedora
>
> > Colours are hard :-/
>
> > Note if you click a group, below the versions, then it filters out
> all the other groups.
>
> > Note that in the "System administration" group for Fedora 20 there
> is an external link "The Ways And Means Of Pants" which is a fake URL,
> if you have a couple of examples of real external links you'd like in that
> > group, or any other group, I'd be happy to swap out the fake one.
>
> > I haven't changed the brand XSL for the html payload, I'd like to
> remove the old left and right logos at the top of the pages. They
> aren't really needed given the menu content.
>
> > e.g.
> https://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/fdocs/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/index.html
>
> > bah I just noticed a bug on that page,  the first two items in the
> navigation menu are swapped ... :(
>
> > I'm sure there are lots more :}
>
> > I've built html, html-single, epub & pdf.
>
> > The site is only in en-US, it's 417M and I'm not sure the hosting
> people would be happy if I hosted more languages :)
>
> > Anyway, it's Friday evening and the wine is calling, please reply if
> you have any ideas or feedback, beware that I'm currently hacking on
> the publican devel branch, so I might steal any really cool ideas for
> > publican.next ;)
>
> > Cheers, Jeff.
>
> > P.S. All the RSS feeds on there should work, but you probably do not
> want to sign up for that site!
>
>
> Cheers, Jeff.
>
> 1: https://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/fdocs/rebuild_site.sh
>

Hey Jeff,

I'm exited to see your interest in our Publican site.  We've been trying
to build a system with publican-created src.rpms built by koji, and
installed to a virtual machine.  The infrastructure part has gone fairly
well; any package we push out is automatically installed and the site
updated.

The part of the process I've really struggled with is the interaction
between the branding, the table of contents stuff, the landing page, the
splash (which I wasn't aware of as a discrete document type,) the CSS
applied to the toc/landing page/splash, the spec file templates used for
landing pages or docs or sites or splashes, the publican.cfg for the
landing page or the site settings... well, I'll just say every time I
try to work on it, I get lost.  I realize that's a very non-specific
problem description, but after hours of working with the existing site,
with CSS that people on our team worked out, or just starting a publican
site from scratch following your user guide, I don't feel like I'm at
the point of even intelligently asking for help.

rkratky and yruseva worked up CSS for a web_style=2 site that I rather
like, at
https://rkratky.fedorapeople.org/docsweb/mockup/en-US/index.html .  I
really like elements from your demo too, like the secondary categories
and the format selection icons (although replicating the Adobe logo for
PDFs probably should go :P ).  The social media things at the bottom are
intriguing; our marketing team would probably like to explore the
potential there.

Ideally, I'd like to have all of the components and docs we need tagged
into the el6-docs repo, and the site would rebuild by simply installing
all the Publican document packages available on a clean virtual
machine.  Can you help us put all these pieces together into a
replicatable site, or at least talk me through some stumbling blocks
sometime?

-- 
-- Pete Travis
 - Fedora Docs Project Leader
 - 'randomuser' on freenode
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