On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 04:02:54PM -0500, Paul Frields forwarded a message from Dimitris Glezos, who wrote: > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > In a little over a month, March 11, the Docs group will be approaching > > a deadline for their guides. By that time, they need translate.fp.o > > running Tx 0.7. There's a ticket open for that, and work is > > progressing: > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455 > > > > I asked in tonight's Docs meeting about that deadline, and whether the > > Docs team had considered any alternatives. One alternative is to > > continue using the old system, with bad (and tedious) hacking required > > on the part of Docs maintainers to split/merge Publican POT files for > > use on the older Tx. > > This is a bit hairy and we should probably avoid it, like you implied. > We need to channel resources into more creative and important stuff. > > > Another alternative might be using transifex.net for one release. As > > transifex.net is a completely free software platform, doing this would > > not go against the Fedora mission or methodologies. However, it would > > depend heavily on the portability of 0.8 data/schema back to 0.7. How > > hard is that, and is this viable at all if it comes to an emergency? > > 0.8-alpha is out, so Fedora could upgrade straight to 0.8 in a few > weeks anyway. Additionally, the work needed to re-create a few > projects on translate.fpo is very small -- just a few clicks away. For > these reasons I wouldn't worry too much about migration. =) > > We'd be happy to help in any way we can. Adding Docs on Txn should be > a few minutes' work. There's a ticket open to enable Transifex.net > submit to Fedora Hosted: > > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1687 > > For the record, Transifex offers migrations both in a forward way as > well as backwards. We haven't done heavy tests on the latter, but they > should work. > > > Just to be clear, I have full faith in our Infrastructure team; > > they're true genii. But it's always good to have a backup plan. > > I too believe we have an excellent Infrastructure team. Our challenge > is resources, since we don't have people actively maintaining and > pushing our L10n infrastructure. We could try this out and see how it > goes. It's how we first tested Transifex itself, right? First it was > docs, then we moved more projects. > > By the way -- we could consider switching to transifex.net in general. > We roll out incremental upgrades there and, as a plus, using an > upstream instance will help in many areas. If you consider projects > like Pulseaudio and Packagekit, this makes total sense. If you > remember, we have had complaints in the past about > system-config-printer. Even for projects like Anaconda it makes sense: > Moblin is using Anaconda and it's a pity to lose translators. Examples > of projects using a hosted free software are Qt and Maemo using > Gitorious (qt.gitorious.org and maemo.gitorious.org). Even Moblin is > considering to switch to something like moblin.translate.org. This way > they can channel resources in competitive advantages instead of > Infrastructure. > > In any way, this should be a separate discussion. If we would have > "good multilingual support" a primary goal of us, we should start > thinking more strategically about how we are pursuing it, why > Launchpad is investing so heavily in Rosetta (Launchpad's L10n tool) > etc. Just some food for thought. =) It looks like we're a lot further along after a couple more weeks. The new ticket status shows a staging instance now available at: http://translate.stg.fedoraproject.org Looks like Dimitris Glezos has kindly created a couple projects already that are configured as multi-POT: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1455#comment:48 There's a minor problem that needs to be fixed with the clone/checkout process, but once that's done it should be possible to test. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- docs mailing list docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs
