00:01:25 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:01:25 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 15 00:01:25 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:25 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:01:34 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call 00:01:38 * Sparks 00:01:56 * ke4qqq 00:01:57 * joat . 00:01:59 * jjmcd . 00:02:15 * joat thinks Spark's calendar is just as busted as his 00:03:08 <Sparks> Good group so far 00:03:23 <Sparks> joat: My calendar is all messed up now that I'm doing an ST&E 00:03:42 * ke4qqq is in and out 00:04:00 <joat> Sparks: I'm still sans-calendar 00:04:05 <joat> waiting for account 00:04:11 * radsy shuffles in 00:04:21 * rudi is here 00:05:05 <Sparks> Okay, let's get started 00:05:22 <Sparks> #topic Beta Release Announcement 00:05:29 <Sparks> jjmcd: Go ahead, I think you added this 00:05:58 <jjmcd> Well, its no surprise, is it. We need to get working on the release announcement 00:06:22 <jjmcd> Isn't the updated GA like a week away? Not sure the exact date 00:06:56 <jjmcd> 20th? 00:06:58 <Sparks> jjmcd: I honestly haven't had a chance to look at my calendar in days 00:07:11 <jjmcd> hehe - yeah, I know what you mean 00:07:18 <rudi> November 17, I thought? 00:07:30 <jjmcd> SRI - i meant beta 00:08:07 <jjmcd> Beta is almost upon us and we need to do the announcement. Not a really big deal, tho, not like GA 00:08:34 <Sparks> Can we just take Alpha and just change it to Beta? 00:08:43 <jjmcd> Pretty much 00:09:00 <Sparks> volunteers? 00:09:26 <jjmcd> I can do some with someone to bounce thoughts off 00:09:49 <jjmcd> preferably someone who doesn't live upside-down 00:10:09 * Sparks is living upside-down in Virginia! 00:10:33 <jjmcd> All these upside down guys sleep when I'm awake! 00:11:03 <jjmcd> I haven't seen Zach in a while, I'd twist his arm 00:11:54 <Sparks> jjmcd: Okay, maybe put something out on the list? 00:12:08 <jjmcd> Yeah, maybe poke a few folks 00:12:53 <Sparks> Okay... anything else on this topic? 00:13:28 <Sparks> #topic f-r-n.rpm 00:13:36 <Sparks> jjmcd: Okay, what's up with this? 00:13:44 <jjmcd> OK, mostly by way of a heads-up 00:13:59 <jjmcd> Our schedule had us doing the beta rpm last tuesday 00:14:17 <Sparks> and did "we"? 00:14:17 <jjmcd> With the schedule slip, I translated that to yesterday to get the max transations 00:14:33 <jjmcd> Turns out, it needed to be done about 4 weeks ago to make it into beta 00:14:40 <Sparks> ?!? 00:14:49 <jjmcd> Yeah, that's about what I said 00:15:02 <Sparks> How did that all work? That doesn't make sense. 00:15:08 <jjmcd> So, no f-r-n.rpm in beta 00:15:46 <jjmcd> Not sure. A lot changed between the time the schedule came out and when we talked with john and l10n to set it up 00:16:00 <ke4qqq> have we followed up with poelcat to make sure our schedule reflects proper date 00:16:02 <jjmcd> but also, we weren't paying close attention to the freezes 00:16:05 <ke4qqq> for next release 00:16:34 <jjmcd> Yes, that was an action item from the meeting, plus, I've been talking with Jesse to better understand the whole process 00:16:51 <jjmcd> Which I've mostly been ignoring, sor of do whaterver the sked says 00:17:29 <jjmcd> Bottom line, tho, I think is that we really need to own this. Having Jesse and Paul as owners makes us too disconnected 00:18:25 <jjmcd> Thats what I have. Other questions? 00:19:10 <ke4qqq> what do you mean by "having us own this" 00:19:40 <jjmcd> Release notes are owned by paul and jesse, so we can't, for example, submit a koji 00:19:56 <Sparks> jjmcd: I think you should be an owner 00:20:02 <Sparks> jjmcd: In addition to others as well 00:20:10 <ke4qqq> ahhh cvs perms 00:20:12 <jjmcd> But first I need to better understand the whole process 00:20:30 <jjmcd> I can make a RPM just fine, but I have little concept of what happens after that 00:20:42 <jjmcd> In the past I've just handed it to Jesse and magic happens 00:21:10 <Sparks> jjmcd: It isn't that difficult to get it through. Heck, I've even done it. 00:21:18 <jjmcd> I'm sure it isn't 00:21:30 <jjmcd> Just need the map 00:21:46 <Sparks> heck, if you can do git, svn, and cvn, then you are golden! 00:21:59 <Sparks> jjmcd: I think it's on the wiki... I'll see if I can find it for you 00:22:22 <jjmcd> Seems like I found it, and I felt like it had some holes but that was a while ago 00:22:51 <Sparks> Okay... 00:23:03 <Sparks> anything else on this topic? 00:24:07 <Sparks> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:24:23 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:24:41 <Sparks> Any update on this? 00:25:52 <Sparks> Anyone? 00:26:50 <Sparks> Okay then... 00:26:55 <Sparks> #topic Status on CC license rollout. 00:27:04 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:27:17 <Sparks> I can't remember if I sent out the message to the list or not, now... 00:27:52 <rudi> Will start rebuilding F11 and F12 guides RSN 00:27:53 <Sparks> But for those that are onboard, can you modify your license pages using the new publican-fedora brand and redo your uploads to docs.fp.o? 00:28:10 <Sparks> I'd like to have everything changed over by next Wednesday. 00:29:35 <jjmcd> hehe - I didn't notice, but the RN's for L10N all say CC-BY-SA 00:29:43 <Sparks> Cool! 00:29:43 <Sparks> :) 00:29:54 <jjmcd> Except for Chinese which hasn't run in a while 00:30:15 <rudi> Sparks -- will do :) 00:30:49 <Sparks> Ya 00:30:51 <Sparks> rudi: Cool 00:30:56 <Sparks> Okay, anything else on this? 00:31:18 <jjmcd> Is the Pravne odrdbe supposed to be always english? 00:31:37 <Sparks> is the who? 00:31:56 <jjmcd> Legal Notice 00:32:10 <jjmcd> It is in English for all langs, although it's title isn't 00:32:29 <Sparks> Yes 00:32:51 <Sparks> We aren't supposed to translate the legal notice as it might loose something in translation 00:33:10 <jjmcd> Makes sense 00:33:30 <rudi> jjmcd -- the title should be localised, the text should not 00:33:40 <jjmcd> ANd that is the case 00:34:02 <rudi> If you see a language where the title isn't localised, it's because the string "legal notice" is missing from the docbooks-locale file currently in Fedora 00:34:31 <jjmcd> I see assamese isn't 00:34:52 <rudi> There is currently no stylesheet for Assamese at all, even upstream 00:35:00 <rudi> I'm working on that with the DocBook community 00:36:13 <Sparks> Okay, anything else on this topic? 00:36:46 <Sparks> #topic Shared open-source style guide 00:36:55 <Sparks> #link https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-June/msg00163.html 00:37:01 <Sparks> Does anyone have any updates on this? 00:38:42 * Sparks hears crickets chirping 00:38:53 <Sparks> Okay, moving on. 00:39:00 <Sparks> #topic Guide needs? 00:39:06 <Sparks> Any guides have any needs? 00:40:02 <Sparks> #topic New Guides 00:40:08 <Sparks> Any new guides on the horizon? 00:41:34 <Sparks> #topic Other business 00:41:38 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else? 00:42:32 <Sparks> Anything at all? 00:42:43 <rudi> me 00:43:08 <rudi> Just an update that Publican 1.0 is very near now -- should be finished within days 00:43:19 <rudi> But it won't be in Fedora any time soon 00:43:25 <jjmcd> whew 00:43:32 <Sparks> rudi: No? 00:43:48 <rudi> Because we've been waiting weeks for dependencies get approved 00:44:14 <rudi> At this rate, it actually looks like Publican 1.0 will be in *Debian* before it gets into Fedora... 00:44:20 <Sparks> Ugh 00:44:21 <rudi> (I'm not exaggerating...) 00:46:51 <Sparks> Okay... Well, I don't know. 00:47:49 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else? 00:49:00 <Sparks> 5 00:49:02 <Sparks> 4 00:49:05 <Sparks> 3 00:49:07 <Sparks> 2 00:49:10 <Sparks> 1 00:49:15 <Sparks> Thanks everyone for coming! 00:49:19 <Sparks> #endmeeting -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list
