On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:46:25PM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul W. Frields" > <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: Alpha Announcement > > >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 01:12:35PM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote: >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul W. Frields" >>> <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: Alpha Announcement >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 08:58:08AM -0400, Eric Christensen wrote: >>>>> I've taken the Alpha announcement from F10 and morphed it[1] for F12. >>>>> Please take a look at it and see what you can update. This should be >>>>> completed by COB tomorrow (Friday). >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcement_for_F12_Alpha_Release >>>> >>>> Keeping in mind that our previous Alpha releases ("Can we successfully >>>> compose it?") were somewhat different than the current Alpha ("Should >>>> be generally testable"), the content of this announcement may need to >>>> change somewhat. Here's the F11 Beta announcement for comparison: >>>> >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Beta_Announcement >>>> >>>> Note the new Alpha is something more like previous Beta, and the new >>>> Beta coming next month is more like previous Preview Release. >>> >>> I was thinking the same thing. (Just getting caught up after broken >>> email). It is probably worth mentioning something like we have always >>> said rawhide is known to eat babies, with this new strategy we probably >>> don't know whether alpha will be more or less voracious. >> >> The idea should be "less voracious than pre-Alpha Rawhide, or the >> level of voracity in F11 Alpha." Alpha in Fedora now means >> essentially the same as industry-wide, in our case "feature-complete >> and testable." That means that Alpha is publicly testable, not by >> just an anointed few. Beta should now mean "code-complete and >> (hopefully) as bug-free as possible." We all know that bugs happen, >> but Beta should be as close to a final release as humanly possible. >> > > Yes, my first thought is that this should be a lot better than previous > alphas. > > But then I thought .... hmmmm, we've never actually done this before, so > from that perspective, it's even riskier than before ;-) It's that, too! Excellent insight, John. :-) > But I think we probably should speak to this whole idea of trying to make > our alpha and beta a little more like the rest of the world. Most people > would probably expect this alpha to be like the previous ones, and it > really isn't. Whether that would make it more attractive or not, well, > it would make it more attractive to ME, but sometimes I'm surprised at > how people view some things. James Laska (jlaska) and Jesse Keating (Oxf13) can probably speak to this more eloquently than I. But I think you're right that we should have a short explanation about this in the announcement. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list
