Re: Proposal for Implementing a Docbook Editor

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Sorry Satya - I am late to the party (discussion).  A really good web
based XML (docbook, DITA and generic) editor would be really nice.
A few of the desktop XML editors (XMetal and Arbortext Editors)
endeavored to create a web-based generic web-based editor with
limited success.

Just Systems is still marketing their product XMAX and it looks
promising but unfortunately it only runs on a Windows-based server
(not good).

There is another editor called XOpus that looks pretty promising as
well.  I have played with this one a little and it looks pretty good
but lacks some of the functionality that is needed for the non-XML
savvy author/editor and it crashes  when using Mozilla which makes it
a non-starter for most environments.

I think that an editor that can used in a content management (I am
using this loosely) system such as Drupal would be very appealing.
There is an XML module for displaying XML in Drupal but nothing
that provides a structured editing environment.

Good luck and I look forward to hearing more about your project
as it moves forward!

Betty

<quote who="satya komaragiri">
> Hello,
>
> I apologize for the delay in reply.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Matthew Daniels <danielsmw@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Satya,
>>
>> A docbook XML editor, especially web-based as you propose, could
>> definitely
>> be useful for the docs team. I don't think it would totally eliminate
>> the
>> need to know XML, but it doesn't need to. Just giving a way for
>> contributers
>> to write content without having to learn a rich markup language would
>> probably mean we could recruit more people and get things done faster.
>>
>
> Very true, that is the motivation behind this project.
>
>> Keep us updated on your progress!
>
> Sure!
>
>
>
> 2009/3/22 Yaakov Nemoy <loupgaroublond@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> I've also found that for some people (myself included) that having
>> WSYWIG
>> and XML side by side can work as a good on the job learning aid. You
>> could
>> certainly market it as away for beginners to get used to working with
>> XML.
>>
>> -Yaakov
> Yes, that's true. These kind of tools usually have a source view as
> well where you can edit the XML itself real time. And see the changed
> back in the wysiwyg view. These can help people relate to the XML and
> its corresponding wysiwyg window
>
>
>
> 2009/3/22 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> What are you going to integrate with?  Zikula?  Meediawiki?
>>
>> -Toshio
>
> By integrate I meant we could host it on the Fedora Docs website and
> allow it to interact  with the CVS. An approval module can also be
> implemented to ensure the quality of the documentation. Its just an
> editor that can be added anywhere in the page. So it could be added to
> the normal flow of any framework.
>
> On the other hand, this tool can also be used an application on a
> system which will then primarily become a UI alternative to vim and
> PSGML on emacs.
>
> Mediawiki will require a wiki format parser. But we are looking for
> docbook in this case. Fedora docs + Zikula + Docbook editor would be
> optimal.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/3/22 Karen Schneider <kgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> I almost wrote that in my earlier post, and concur with Yaakov. Being
>> able
>> to see the code is also good for diagnostics (for both the human and
>> machine
>> editors).
>>
>> If you need people to contribute comments about why this would be
>> valuable,
>> feel free to contact me.
>
> Thanks  Karel, That will be very useful to build up my case.
>
>
> Regards,
> Satya Komaragiri
>
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