I see this come up all the time, it's what you call a 'frequently asked question.' People wonder ... ... are we replacing the wiki with a CMS? ... is the CMS for authoring content collaboratively? ... or is the CMS for publishing already completed documents in various formats (Oo.org, XML, HTML, PDF, etc.)? In my mind, the CMS is for putting publishing of formal content in the hands of people who know and care. Writers should be able to publish drafts and completed versions. Editors should be able to fix and push updates. Translators should be able to complete, publish, fix, and update translations of guides. Our current system is essentially checking rendered content in to source control, and an auto-builder puts it on the web. Historically, this system was never well adopted, even by people who otherwise know and understand the tools. Instead, easier to use tools have drawn the attention and content, such as wikis and blogs. The adoption rates are staggering by comparison. The original purpose of getting a CMS was to make publishing easy. We already have a toolchain and process for getting content out of the minds of the subject matters experts, on to the wiki, in to DocBook XML, translated, and rendered to HTML, PDF, etc. All of that can now scale very well to larger and larger teams. The only missing piece is the ability to take all that content and put it on docs.fedoraproject.org. I purposely did not address the idea of people actually collaborating on content that has the CMS as canonical. When asked, we refer to the upstream fedorahosted.com versioning system as the canonical source. In this way, the CMS is similar to koji -- raw source turned in to packaged content. It is possible that a team would want to use the CMS as a working location. I'm tempted to cross that bridge when it happens, an idiom which here means, let's figure out how to make that work when we come to that decision point. Our choice(s) and experience with CMS systems is going to inform the Websites team on possible CMS choices for running underneath fedoraproject.org. In that case, the content there would probably live inside of the CMS as canonical. People would collaborate on it directly in the CMS. It would be great if the CMS or some other tool would give a collaborative, browser based wysiwyg editing experience for DocBook XML that is in a version control system. There are as many reasons why that won't work as there are to give it a try. In the meantime ... Make things clearer? Muddier? Slightly filmy but clear enough to drive? - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41
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