On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 01:27:33PM -0500, John J. McDonough wrote: > Paul I appreciate the feedback. > > I do have a few thoughts on specific ways things might be made better for > new beat writers, but I also imagined that if other beat writers engaged > in the conversation, better ideas would emerge. > > A little shooting from the hip: > > 1) Seed the beats, especially the untouched beats, with the information > available from yum. This can be done programatically, and I would be > willing to work on that, but I suspect that there may be a better way, > and in any case, the mapping of packages to beats is something that > probably needs to be easily editable, and that raises some issues I > haven't reconciled. I think there is a better way -- feeding package information to beats is simply not a good one. We had to change a lot of the Amateur Radio beat for that very reason. Simply listing the results of 'yum info' or 'yum search', or producing a listing of changed version numbers, and calling that release notes devalues the process a bit. It would be fine, however, to give people a command they could use to produce that info locally to save space for more relevant and rich content. > 2) Provide some relatively automatic way for a beat writer to know what > has changed within his domain without grazing all 11K packages. I will > do this for myself for F11, whether I can do it in a way that is > appropriate in a production environment, I'm less sure. (I'm a big fan > of really grody hacks). The nice thing about fedorapeople.org and our personal wiki pages is we can hand out all the grody hacks we like. (I do that too.) ;-) > 3) Provide new beat writers with an assigned mentor, preferably someone > with at least some familiarity with the beat content, as well, of course, > as the process. > > I'm pretty sure other beat writers out there have much better ideas but > they are keeping their mouths shut. Perhaps I should have waited a few > more days. Indeed, with the holiday fast upon us, many of the stateside > beat writers are probably already headed off to their turkeys, leaving > their laptops alone and lonely over the long weekend. On the other hand, > perhaps some will emerge from their tryptophan haze in a talkative mood! I intend to be off the keyboard (or at least, working on nothing beyond my own personal development projects) as much of the weekend as I can, so I can come back more energized. I hope you enjoy yours too! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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