On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Jason Taylor <jmtaylor90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 08:20 +1000, Murray McAllister wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade <kwade@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 22:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> > >> >> Note that the su command removes the need for the user to look for >> >> niggling prompt details. It also clarifies that the user should >> >> expect a prompt for the root password. >> > >> > In part of that discussion with the Content Services team, we discussed >> > the need for sudo to be enabled by default. One person was in favor of >> > having each document specify how to enable sudo, but I don't like that >> > rat hole. That is another point we could discuss, however, if any >> > Anonymous Cowards are interested in fixing the common usage. Meanwhile, >> > I'm advocating for a sane sudo-by-default in future Fedora versions so >> > we can stop having to use 'su -c'. >> > >> > - Karsten >> >> I leave this out. I have text preceding the command saying "Run the >> following command as the Linux root user:", because I'm too lazy to >> decide between sudo or su ;) > > I agree that a standard for documentation purposes of using 'su -c' or > 'sudo' is a good thing. On a tangent, however, I have noticed with sudo > that it doesn't always find the command that the user is trying to run. > For example, try and run restorecon as sudo. It doesn't work > out-of-the-box at least for me anyway. > > -Jason Not that it helps for previous versions, but new users on rawhide/Fedora 10 get all paths (not sure of the correct terminology), so running sudo for anything just works: [newuser@localhost ~]$ echo $PATH /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/newuser/bin Lars E. Pettersson wrote to fedora-desktop-list, "Why not instead try to educate people to use a really strong password for root, only use root when necessary, and perhaps teach them to add certain not-that-dangerous-commands to sudo?"[1] Probably too much hassle, but at the start of each guide, you could document how to add only the commands used in the guide to Cmnd_Alias in "/etc/sudoers". Cheers. [1] <https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00007.html> -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list
