Summary to follow [15:04] <stickster> <meeting> [15:04] <stickster> Roll call! [15:04] <ke4qqq> DavidNalley [15:05] * ianweller [15:05] <stickster> Is mizmo around? [15:05] <mizmo> hiii [15:05] <stickster> eeeeeeggscellent. [15:06] <stickster> And I'm Paul Frields. [15:06] <ianweller> :-o [15:06] <stickster> You might remember me from such hit shows as, "Bosom Buddies." [15:06] * rharrison accounts for himself [15:06] <stickster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks [15:06] <stickster> There's our task list. [15:07] <mizmo> im mizmo. u might remember me as the girl in the funny hat in the video on redhatmagazine.com right now :-p [15:07] <stickster> mizmo: baby ur a star [15:07] <kushal> KushalDas [15:07] <stickster> (That was my Prince voice, but you couldn't hear it from there.) [15:07] <mizmo> lol [15:07] <stickster> OK. Unless someone has an objection, [15:07] <stickster> I'm going to start down the priority 1 items on the task list. [15:07] <kushal> stickster, thank you a lot for the nice microphone [15:08] <stickster> kushal: You're welcome. :-) [15:08] <stickster> kushal: Now go out and produce thee some videos! :-) [15:08] <kushal> stickster, working on them :) [15:08] <stickster> OK, I see that task #1 on our list is the 4 foundations posts. [15:08] <stickster> ke4qqq: I think you did a second one already, yes? [15:08] <ke4qqq> yes [15:09] <stickster> ke4qqq: slap that URL in here, I'll capture it to the page too. [15:09] <ke4qqq> next will be done by tomorrow [15:09] <ke4qqq> http://www.nalley.sc/david/?p=59 [15:10] <stickster> Awesome. That's "Features"? [15:10] <ke4qqq> yes, Features is next - rough draft already done, just needs to be cleaned up a bit [15:10] <stickster> ke4qqq: Let me know if you need any supplementary info -- since poelcat and I work on that pretty much daily or so. [15:10] <ke4qqq> k [15:11] <stickster> Well, that's well underway, so on to the next item, unless there are objections or questions about the 4 Foundations [15:11] <stickster> OK. [15:11] <ria> Ria Das [15:11] <stickster> Hi Ria, thanks for coming. [15:11] <stickster> mizmo: The next item is one that we discussed a bit in Artwork [15:11] <ria> :) [15:11] <mizmo> posterz!!11 [15:11] <ianweller> nowai [15:12] <stickster> There had been some brainstorming, and it included... STEAMBOATZ! [15:12] <mizmo> yeh [15:12] <ianweller> steamboatz????// [15:12] <mizmo> i think the consensus was that we want a more graphic and less photo feel [15:12] <mizmo> so i gotta get offs my duff and graphic-ify [15:12] <stickster> What was really interesting to me was that you guys came up with some killer ideas for how to tie the boats into each of the foundations [15:13] <stickster> With Freedom, it was just the idea of boating down the river, unfettered [15:13] <stickster> (or ocean) [15:13] <ianweller> a giant boat sitting on a earth thing [15:13] <stickster> This struck a deep chord with me because I *just* got done reading "Huck Finn" with my daughter. [15:13] <stickster> ianweller: Failboat? [15:13] <ianweller> heh [15:14] <stickster> The freedom of Huck and Jim rafting down the river was a big theme in that novel. [15:14] <stickster> So anyhow... [15:14] <stickster> Friends was the crew all having a beer on deck, or pulling oars together, or something to that effect [15:14] <stickster> Features was the awesomeness of the engine room [15:14] <stickster> And Future was landing on the destination island, for example. [15:15] * stickster shuts up and lets mizmo pontificate now [15:15] <mizmo> well [15:15] <stickster> oops, one other thing: some of those ideas may have been mine, so if they suck, blame me. [15:15] <mizmo> i think the status is just that we gotta do it [15:15] <mizmo> which was the status last week [15:15] <stickster> :-D [15:15] <mizmo> except this week we gots a rough mock for one [15:15] <mizmo> :) [15:16] <stickster> mizmo: If you or some other intrepid artiste can establish a "look" for one, the others might be easier to fall into place from other helpers [15:17] <mizmo> yep i hope os! [15:17] <mizmo> s/os/so [15:17] <stickster> superb [15:17] --> tw2113 has joined this channel (n=tw2113@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). [15:18] <stickster> Is JonRob around? [15:18] <stickster> I think not. [15:18] [Error] JonRob: No such nick/channel. [15:18] <ianweller> i also think not [15:18] <stickster> Great minds think alike, apparently, since he ain't here. [15:18] <stickster> OK then. [15:19] <stickster> *skritch skritch skratch* [15:19] <tw2113> meeting isn't it? [15:19] <stickster> If mether were around, he could tell us whether JonRob talked to him. [15:19] <stickster> tw2113: Yes, welcome! [15:19] <mether> stickster: whats the discussion about [15:19] <tw2113> split shift today so i get to come in late and possibly make the rest of it [15:20] <stickster> mether: Did JonRob talk to you about reusability of the Release Notes Overview in the Release Summary? [15:20] <stickster> That was his banner to take up. [15:20] <mether> nope [15:20] <stickster> OK. [15:20] <mether> not offlist atleast [15:21] <stickster> We'll just have to give that a miss this time, then. He had a sort of master plan in mind and I don't really know what it entailed. [15:21] <stickster> ke4qqq: If you could CC JonRob on the summary, and include that bit for his benefit, it would be a big help [15:21] <stickster> Thanks! [15:22] <stickster> Oops, gotta call mizmo on the carpet yet again then. [15:22] <stickster> OMZG STICKERZ!!!!!1!!! [15:22] <mizmo> stickster, OMGZ!!!11 [15:22] <mizmo> stickster, yeh so ive been a bad girl here [15:22] <mizmo> stickster, um gdk met someone at oscon who does stickers and who is also a fedora fan [15:23] <mizmo> i emailed him last week for quotes, he said he'd look into it but hasn't gotten back to me yet so ill send him a reminder today [15:23] <tw2113> zomg [15:23] <tw2113> :D [15:23] <stickster> OK, fair enough. I hadn't seen the new, better-for-diecutting version yet [15:23] <stickster> *very* nice! [15:23] <ianweller> only nitpicky thing i say: why are there colons after "write your own"? [15:24] *** adrianalves is now known as adrianalves|away. [15:24] <stickster> ianweller: Better digestion? [15:24] * ianweller sticks one of the blank stickers on stickster's forehead and writes "better digestion" in the bubble [15:25] <kushal> :) [15:25] <ianweller> :P [15:25] <ianweller> but seriousl. [15:25] <ianweller> seriously* [15:25] <stickster> Looks like an easy enough fix in inkscape [15:25] <-- mthompson has left this server ("l8r"). [15:27] <stickster> OK, without JonRob that's really the end of the priority 1 tasks. [15:27] <stickster> tw2113: Since you're here, want to talk about the first task on the priority 2 list? [15:27] <tw2113> ack, not sure what it is [15:27] <kushal> stickster, I have few input for Fedora TV [15:27] <tw2113> link plz [15:27] <kushal> tw2113, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks [15:27] <stickster> tw2113: See the task list --> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks#Active_.28Assigned.29_Tasks [15:28] <stickster> Oh, thanks kushal :-) [15:28] <kushal> :) [15:28] <stickster> kushal: In the meantime, yes, please talk about Fedora TV. [15:28] <mizmo> write your own: [15:28] <mizmo> i dont see anything wrong with that? [15:28] <mizmo> its indicating, below is where u write your own no? [15:28] <kushal> I am out of ideas for screencasts [15:28] <ianweller> mizmo: it might be firefox's rendering. i see "write your own:" *under* the sticker [15:29] <kushal> the one in wiki page, i don't know them properly so can not work on them [15:29] <mizmo> ianweller, oh weird [15:29] <tw2113> i must chime in that i've been a bad boy and haven't touched the topic in a long time [15:29] <stickster> ianweller: No, it's there in the source afaict [15:29] <stickster> mizmo: I just moved them up, I can send you the SVG. [15:29] <mizmo> ianweller, yeh firefox might be funkifying the vertical alignment if u are looking at the svg [15:29] <mizmo> or maybe i screwed it up! not sure [15:29] <kushal> today created few on python, how to copy files to fedorapeople.org account [15:29] <ianweller> mizmo: if it's above the sticker then it's cool. [15:29] <mizmo> yeh i was thinking they were above [15:29] <mizmo> i agree if they below we should take : out [15:29] <mizmo> or move them up [15:29] <ianweller> ok. [15:30] <tw2113> if we need to push the istanbul video topic more, it might be best to give it to someone else. I'm just dropping the ball here [15:30] <kushal> So, I need to application list people want to see in the videos or workflow [15:30] <kushal> like how to create a patch may be [15:30] <stickster> tw2113: Is it a lack of time thing, or a lack of interest thing? [15:30] <tw2113> a bit of both [15:31] <kushal> I also started a series on PyQt4 programming [15:31] <tw2113> i'm juggling my fair amount of balls over here plus a bit of lack of interest [15:31] <kushal> tw2113, do you have ideas ? [15:31] <stickster> kushal: Do you think you might be working toward an overall "How to Maintain a Package" video set? [15:31] <tw2113> no i don't sadly [15:32] <kushal> stickster, ok, next task in pool :) [15:32] <kushal> tw2113, ok [15:32] <stickster> kushal: That was more of a question :-) [15:32] <kushal> stickster, like for Fedora packaging ? [15:32] <stickster> kushal: Is that your goal? [15:32] <kushal> stickster, oh, :p [15:32] <kushal> stickster, goal ,means ? [15:32] <kushal> for what ? [15:32] <stickster> kushal: Something you're trying to achieve with your videos [15:33] <kushal> stickster, I goal is simple .... [15:33] <kushal> people do not get chance to meet people in real life to learn from them, only option is irc and RTFM [15:33] <stickster> kushal: Oh yes, I understand why we create the videos :-) [15:33] <kushal> if they can see on videos how to do things, it becomes very easy [15:33] <stickster> kushal: I didn't do a very good job of explaining myself. [15:34] <stickster> kushal: Let me try again :-) [15:34] <kushal> ok [15:34] <stickster> I was thinking that, since you're creating lots of videos, and they seem to be about some development topics... [15:34] <stickster> ...and... [15:34] <stickster> ...because you maintain some packages... [15:34] <stickster> ...the larger theme of "How to Maintain a Package" might be interesting to you, as a video-maker. [15:34] <kushal> yes, of course :) [15:35] <stickster> In other words, a series, one at a time, showing the essential skills [15:35] <stickster> (or more than one at a time if you like) :-) [15:35] <kushal> plus I want to do more for simple users [15:35] <kushal> but as I don't know most of the user tools or options, that is difficult for me :P [15:35] <stickster> tw2113: Is there a marketing task that *does* grab you by the lapels, which wouldn't take much of your time to achieve? [15:36] <mizmo> we're hoping to have my fedora tools ready for f10 that are focused on package maintainers [15:36] <stickster> tw2113: Ooo. I have an idea. [15:36] <mizmo> so the process might be changing (for the better) as soon as f10 [15:36] <-- bpepple|lt has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [15:36] <tw2113> hit me [15:36] <mizmo> (something to keep in mind for that video) [15:36] <stickster> mizmo: Oh, that's true. [15:36] <kushal> mizmo, oh, ok [15:36] <stickster> So if kushal creates a lot of videos, they might all change :-\ [15:36] <stickster> s/change/need to change/ [15:36] <stickster> That would be silly [15:36] <stickster> tw2113: Are you a CSS guy? [15:36] <kushal> stickster, then I will work on that after f10 :) [15:37] <tw2113> i like to believe so, and have studied it in college [15:37] <tw2113> :) [15:37] <stickster> kushal: Whatever happens, make yourself happy doing videos, first and foremost :-0 [15:37] <stickster> :-) [15:37] <kushal> stickster, that I am :) [15:37] <stickster> tw2113: How would you like to fix the docs.fp.o CSS? [15:37] <stickster> tw2113: 'Coz we need it badly. [15:38] <tw2113> fancy it up and make it smashing? [15:38] <stickster> tw2113: Take a look at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ [15:38] <stickster> 2002 called, and they want their styles back. [15:38] <ianweller> *that* is a domain that needs love. [15:38] <kushal> stickster, btw, I am uploading my ogg files to fedorapeople account [15:38] <stickster> tw2113: Now compare that to http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ [15:38] <kushal> soon I will be out of space [15:38] <stickster> tw2113: Which uses the newer, canonical styles. [15:38] <stickster> kushal: We can get you more, just ask in #fedora-admin [15:38] <stickster> kushal: And let them know I sent you ;-) [15:38] <kushal> stickster, then I will use my own space for both flvs and ogg [15:39] <kushal> stickster, oh, ok [15:39] <stickster> tw2113: So the objective is to match the docs.fp.o site to the newer official Fedora styling. [15:39] <kushal> stickster, my idea of keeping flvs on fedorapeople is nothing but advertisement [15:39] <kushal> that we *support* ogg [15:39] <tw2113> sounds like parts of that would be just copying new into old [15:39] <stickster> kushal: Hm, let me think on that. [15:39] <kushal> eh [15:39] <stickster> tw2113: Possibly. [15:40] <kushal> s/flv/ogg [15:40] <stickster> tw2113: The rub is, we need someone to *do* it who knows what he's doing :-) [15:40] <kushal> stickster, my idea of keeping oggs on fedorapeople is nothing but advertisement [15:40] <tw2113> yeah [15:40] <stickster> mizmo: That's the official styling, yes? [15:40] <tw2113> sure, i'll take on that task [15:40] <stickster> mizmo: e.g. what's on http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ ? [15:40] * stickster almost 100% sure of that, but JIC... [15:40] <stickster> tw2113: Awesome. [15:41] <stickster> tw2113: How long do you think you need for that? [15:41] <tw2113> how about we agree that i'll get on it asap [15:41] <stickster> tw2113: Do you want to try for next week, then? [15:42] <stickster> tw2113: Or does two weeks sound better for your schedule/time constraints? [15:42] <stickster> Or...? [15:42] <tw2113> it'll be my first official chance to push stuff live for Fedora, so i'd need a bit of help figuring out how to download the uptodate files and then pushing live etc [15:42] <tw2113> yeah, lets aim for 2 week [15:42] <stickster> ianweller may be able to help you with that [15:42] <tw2113> i'm sure i could find some help easy [15:42] <stickster> ianweller: Can I call on you for help in that regard? [15:42] <stickster> ugh. [15:42] <stickster> That was the crappiest sentence ever. [15:42] * ianweller yells at the government for making him go to school [15:42] <stickster> ianweller: Will you help with that? [15:43] <ianweller> stickster: possibly. [15:43] <kushal> ianweller, lol [15:43] <tw2113> i just have to work around a schedule that isn't the same every week [15:43] <stickster> tw2113: In fact, quaid or I may be able to help with that. [15:43] <ianweller> i have to work around school, and homework, and ughhhhhh [15:43] <stickster> The changes are made to a site to which we have access [15:43] <stickster> ianweller: no problem [15:43] <ianweller> i'll do what i can. [15:43] <tw2113> i can pester ricky for some help too if i need to [15:44] * ianweller wishes summer lasted 11 months [15:44] <stickster> tw2113: OK, I'll put in a 2-week status call [15:44] <tw2113> k [15:44] <stickster> Cool! [15:44] <stickster> Well, that's it for the agenda. [15:44] <stickster> Open floor! [15:44] <ianweller> oh goody, my computer's keyboard and mouse just locked up again [15:44] * stickster sure if gregdek were here, he'd have something sage to say, but I'm spent for the day. [15:44] <tw2113> who ordered the 15 pizzas? [15:45] * stickster edits Tasks page while others talk about marketing stuff (hopefully) [15:45] <ianweller> stickster: what's the status of trademark guidelines for business cards? [15:45] <stickster> ianweller: Actually, we discussed that at the Board meeting this week [15:45] <ianweller> i saw that in the notes, that's why i ask :P [15:45] <stickster> ah [15:45] <stickster> Well, what we were thinking is that we *want* everyone to use the standard cards [15:45] <stickster> *and* [15:46] <stickster> We would like people to include on the cards something that indicates how they can be "found" on our system, so recipients can verify the person is in Fedora [15:46] <ianweller> i wonder if there's a command line tool i can use to get my keyboard and mouse unfrozen. [15:46] <stickster> ianweller: yum install unbreakmydevices [15:46] <ianweller> stickster: i wish! [15:47] <stickster> Then you SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER!!! [15:47] <tw2113> just throw them out the window ianweller [15:47] <tw2113> the higher up you are, the better [15:47] <ianweller> i know it's not a hardware problem [15:47] <ianweller> it's a fedora problem. [15:47] <ianweller> and that's what makes me mad [15:47] <kushal> ianweller, same here [15:47] * ianweller sshes in and init 3;init 5 [15:47] <stickster> OK, are we done with marketing then? [15:47] <kushal> my personal lappy gets in same condition any time [15:47] <kushal> stickster, seems so :) [15:48] <stickster> 5 [15:48] <stickster> 4 [15:48] --> jesolato has joined this channel (i=jesolato@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx). [15:48] <stickster> 3 [15:48] <stickster> 2 [15:48] <stickster> 1 [15:48] <stickster> </meeting [15:48] <stickster> > -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list
