<quote who="Karsten Wade"> > I've been wondering about this for a while, so when Stuart brought up > the age of the Keeping Up to Date tutorial: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/updates/ > > today on #fedora-docs, I figured it was time to open this discussion. > I'm hoping you are interested in taking over some documentation. > > We have a few documents that are FC2 specific and are going to be > orphaned when FC2 moves over to the Legacy Project. The Docs Project > (FDP) follows the Fedora Core release and maintenance schedule, meaning > when a version of Core goes to the Legacy Project, the docs should go > with it. I'll list what those docs are (just a few), bring up some > ideas about what can be done with them, and finish with a few useful > URLs. > > ## The Docs: > > We'll have a list that is a bit longer for FC3 when that time comes. > > Keeping Up to Date (FC2) > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/updates/ > We're likely to update this for FC4, if a writer pops up wanting it. > > Fedora Jargon Buster > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/jargon-buster/ > > This was written originally under FC1. It may not be out of date, > but it hasn't been updated in six months. Have you asked the author, mainly Dave? > > Package List for Fedora Core 2 > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/package-list/fc2/ > > I don't know anything about this or its value. Do people really want to read this doc or just browse the download folder? > > Release notes for FC2 > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc2/x86/ > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc2/x86_64/ > > Not sure that you'd ever want to update them, and we can certainly > leave them in place. For relnotes in particular it's a good thing to > keep old ones around. Yes, there's no point in updating them or ditching them, as it's not going to be re-released. > Fedora Core 2 SELinux FAQ > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc2/ > > SELinux had a breakdown in updates to FC2, and this FAQ says at the > top to upgrade to FC3. However, if anyone is trying to work with > SELinux in FC2, this FAQ might be valuable. Keep it. We must understand that people like to get a distro working and then not touch it too much if it's a server. I know if I had just smoothed out a FC2 server, and I was implementing SELinux and this doc dissappeared, I would be a bit annoyed. > > ## What to Do? > > I'm just throwing out a few ideas, which may even be somewhat exclusive > of each other. > > 1. Legacy Docs could be a sub-project of the Docs Project. > > There is no rule that says what is in our purview. I keep the nose of > the project turned in the direction Fedora Core is going, but the rest > of the head can be doing other things at the same time. I think they should be maintained if anything is backported, but otherwise just freeze them, unless some bugzilla entries come up. > > Currently, we don't have enough writers to work on new documents that > are needed for FC. I don't know of anyone interested in the Legacy > docs. Neither do I. > IMO, maintenance of a set of Legacy docs is likely to be easier than a > doc that tracks something with an active update schedule in FC. I had > this with the SELinux FAQ. It was very active during the early parts of > the release, and tapered off as rawhide become more of the next version. > > This means that one or two people could maintain quite a large set of > docs. This could be great experience for someone interested in > technical writing, open source projects, or need to support a legacy > app. > > By integrating the efforts, current docs could be written with Legacy > needs in mind. Whatever those turn out to be. Yes, they can be a basis to work on and update them, rather than starting from scratch. > > 2. Legacy Project can form the Legacy Docs as a sub-project. > > This is more of a throw over the wall scheme. I'd recommend that the > FDP remain available to help train on the tools. > > Since the Legacy Project is going to need to staff the a documentation > effort with writers, you might as well keep them close to the rest of > the project. Agreed. > > 3. Legacy Project could cherry-pick from the versioned docs. The FDP > would likely keep the outdated docs available, but mark them clearly as > not current. The FDP will help get Legacy writers up to speed, mainly > through our standard docs and procedures, then mailing list support > where needed. > > > ## URLs > > FDP page: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ > > For an overview of the docs process: > > http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/documentation-quick-start/ > > Our Wiki page is still being added to, we'll be adding process > documentation through this medium: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > > Thanks - Karsten No, thank you. -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 742001 E ghenry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/