Hi > > I think that this a circular problem. Fedora and > GNOME developers have > seen the benefits of usability, so they push for > better usability > themselves. I don't think that documentation is > seen as a critical > part of developing useful software. the point is thou that documentation is critical factor for many people. developers even if they dont write all the docs themselves should consider it important enough to cc the list and announce the important changes that should be documented gnome usability had a few important motivated developers concerned with it and moving forward inspite of the difficulties. we need a bunch of such people for the documentation team too. The document authors should not work in isolation. in many cases the work being documented is involved enough that its simply not possible to do so. When we have this installation document at 0.9, we can make some noise about this in the development list. Community > documentation work is too > fragmented to have a strong voice in development, > and cannot point to > any spectacular success in the same way that > usability work has > revolutionised GNOME. thats because the distributions themselves are fragmented to create very integrated documents.. thats out of scope to be discussing here thou my short version: get a 0.9 release out and make some noise about this for feedback in the users list and getting developers involved in the devel list ===== Regards Rahul Sundaram __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail