Hi > The general advice is actually to avoid screenshots > wherever possible. > I think that this may be to reduce maintenance. The > Installation Guide > is exceptional, AFAIK. in general we should favor end users over maintainers. can fedora docs teamt reconsider this advice. while it might be true for previous redhat or current redhat el releases, fedora aims are different and we should be more accomodating. > > Good point - I've added the warning. What extra > explanation do you feel > is needed for yum remove ? well yum remove as is the same for other operations asks for confirmation before doing removing the packages. Also unlike rpm -e, it can reverse resolve dependencies. You should be providing working examples of every command rather than simply stating them. add a note somewhere to refer to man pages and yum -h for more options and help > At the moment I need to check the text against the > final release of FC3, > integrate the screenshots provided by Colin Charles > and tidy up > various other bits before doing another build. > After that, the sections > relating to partitioning and RAID are probably the > most critical missing > pieces. I suggest you present the installation guide to the users mailing list with a warning that its in a draft stage and collect all feedback from the huge amount of newbies there. This will get you much better understanding of what users want from a guide like this . I suspect most of us in the docs have enough experience with this to actually put ourselves in a newbie perspective > > I had to revise all my yum notes for FC3 final, so I > thought that I'd > put some more effort in and try to produce a proper > guide. Hopefully > this is now complete. its a great start but probably requires a couple of revisions. a few more points Have a section to explain how to get rid of the alerts icon. Its a memory hog currently and is one of the FAQ's the section on managing up2date channels should mention that up2date can *use* both apt and yum repositories but not act as a general frontend for either of these commands 7. Authorizing Package Sources This section might have a few references to explain what gpg is(gnupg is the actual package) and also a warning against disabling gpg keys while letting the users know that there is a option to do so. "8.1. Automatic Updates" " There is no separate yum service. The command given above enables the yum control script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/. This control script activates the script /etc/cron.daily/yum.cron, so that the cron service will perform the system update as part of it's daily schedule." users typically dont care how this works. if you need to explain this please do so as note. the dummies series of book does this well. it has humour titles like "techno whizbang" or something like that which clearly gets the point across that this is not a required reading. You might want to add that cron is a task scheduler for Linux "yum provides MTA" this is actually a meta package and probably requires a explanation as note " The Website for the official Fedora Extras repositories is here: http://www.fedora.us/ " this is actually a temporary status(hopefully). You might want to link to http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/terminology.html "12. Adding Repositories as Package Sources" It would be useful to add that one of the advantages of the new format is that a new repository can be added as a rpm package. for example freshrpms does this. Also try adding a warning that users shouldnt mix random repositories together freshrpms and dags are not compatible with fedora.us and livna (I am not very sure of the exact details) " Do not use the options to override this dependency checking. Instead, use yum to find and install the packages needed to meet the dependency requirements." do not use the options to override dependancies unless you are an expert. Use yum or download the required packages manually. use rpmfind.net to find the package having the required dependancy if a package is not explicitly suggested "You will need to install the Development Tools group of packages on your system in order to compile software from source code." you might explain yum groupinstall and how to use the cds here. the warning can also add the information that compiling software from random untrusted sources are potentialy dangerous reminder: for more details users should read the man pages and do explain every command with live examples Try presenting the result to users list for more feedback note: This feedback might sound critical but I have been doing such tech reviews for LDP for sometime and its a good document regardless of this. Congrats regards Rahul Sundaram ===== Regards Rahul Sundaram __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com