On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 14:45, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 17:12, Karsten Wade wrote: > > > > http://www.fedoranews.org/alex/tutorial/yum/ { tainted URL? } > > I don't know how CC and FDL licensed documents mix. It'd be a shame to > > have to redo the implementation. Has anyone encountered this yet? It's > > covered by the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 1.0 > > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/). > > Karsten, > > This brings up an interesting point which might be outside the scope of > this list, but I'm hoping you, Tammy and Mark especially (given your FTE > at Red Hat) might have some experience. I see your link above, and want > to be clear that, to this point, I have not visited it. > > It looks to me like the CC BY-NC-SA is incompatible with the GNU FDL in > that it (a) requires identical licensing (SA), and (b) prevents > commercial use (NC). It does, however, grant the licensor the right to > waive any of these provisions upon request. It does make me a little > leery about reading too much before I write my tutorial! My head started > spinning with "clean room implementation" and other nonsense, until I > decided to simply write mine and see how it comes out. Oh, man, I know where you are coming from. I hope we don't have to worry about being tainted by other open source projects using different licenses. I can see that we can't mix the two. I'd been hoping that the script was covered by a different license, but it doesn't say anything else so I'm assuming it's the CC BY-NC-SA. > In general, the law says that "fair use" isn't affected by copyright of > any kind, including a CC license, as stated explicitly even on the CC > site. Just as a copyrighted work may quote from a copyrighted source > without permission, I may review Alex's work and draw an idea from it, > and expand on it. I may *not* reproduce a substantial portion of his > work verbatim without permission. I plan to write my tutorial and then, > once it's done, post about it here and in Bugzilla. > > I'll leave it up to others to review my original work and tell me if > there are shortcomings at that time. If someone would then like to point > out deficiencies, I'd try and address them myself up until the point my > skills give out. Fair enough. If I raise the point that such-and-such a script would be a Good Thing, we'll see if Alex wants to re-license or dual-license the script under the GPL, if it's worth it. In the end, I don't think you are going to be tainted by reading his tutorial or script, but I understand recreating the functionality he has may be beyond your and my skills. If it is, perhaps someone else will step-up and write a GPL'd script to use, if we can't use Alex's. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, Tech Writer a lemon is just a melon in disguise http://people.redhat.com/kwade/ gpg fingerprint: 2680 DBFD D968 3141 0115 5F1B D992 0E06 AD0E 0C41
