On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 18:31, Karsten Wade wrote: > Did you mean to take this off-list? No, sorry, I just hit return. > I can't help it if someone gets pissed off; to be honest, I'm not in > much of a better situation -- I just write stuff for this project, and I > currently can't write to the Fedora CVS. Still, I'd rather have a > number of items in the queue for when CVS shows up, than have a bunch of > whining in the queue. > > This is my style, so you can use it or abuse it: I'd rather do > everything within my power _first_ instead of waiting for Mom to fix it > all for me. I'm trying to point out ways for improvement Karsten. I dont' see it as waiting for mom to fix anything. Though if you *are* the only RH input, and you don't have site access, why are we here? Waiting for Tammy's child to leave home? > > Where's the bugzilla page | instructions whatever? > > More hurdles Karsten? > > In the middle of the page at http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ it > has always said the following; it can't be much clearer than this: My bad. I'd not read it|taken it in| seen bugfixes on the horizon... Though how the heck can we fix 'em if we can't commit? More catch 22? / Join the queue? > > Bugzilla is the tool for reporting problems and requesting features with > any aspect of Fedora. This is no more a hurdle for Fedora docs project > than it is for Fedora Core. Two wheels is a hurdle if you've never ridden a bike. You may be familiar, I'm not. > Ultimately, it's a better-than-nothing > project management tool for maintainers. Much easier to do a bugzilla > search for all open bugs than comb through this mailing list looking for > someone's suggested fix. > > > > When CVS opens for us, we will have a lot of work to do, but it will be > > > good work, instead of starting from scratch. > > No note of this as an interim on the docs project page? > > Its dead meat as far as a project page goes. > > Gathering dust. > > I don't have access to update that page. If I were to suddenly have > that access tomorrow, I still don't know exactly what needs to be > updated on that page. If every message on this list reporting what > needs to be changed was a bugzilla report, we'd be much further ahead > than we are now. OK. Bugs and bare/unchanging web pages are two different things IMHO. > http://fedora.redhat.com/about/leadership.html > > "Leadership > > Leadership in the Fedora Project will be post-facto recognition of > acting leaders, not appointment of people to start acting as leaders > after appointment. The leaders that we will recognize Who's 'we' if not RH? => some manner of project lead to make that decision? Or is this just another rh catch 22? > So ... there's this thread I started with the subject "what is ready for > fedora.redhat.com." I think we should use that thread to gain consensus > about what changes we think should take place on the two docs pages, > then file a bugzilla report detailing the changes. Would you like to > contribute your ideas to that thread, maybe even try out the bug > reporting? If that's the definition of a bug, I'll try it; but I'm losing hope. -- Regards DaveP. XSLT&Docbook FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl
