On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 15:01, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I found them quite daunting to get installed and set up. > > I agree with the rationale for using it though. > > Dave, you've just hit on something important. If getting the toolset > installed or configured is a barrier, that means our "Documentation > Guide" isn't doing its job, and should have some parts rewritten to make > it easier to get your tools set up. Which part exactly gave you trouble? <grin/> <facts, era='historical'> My goal was dsssl for sgml to print (.doc rtf). 1. Learn Scheme 2. Learn SGML 3. Learn emacs (only free editor) Then I started to make progress... 4. Learn about catalogs. etc etc. Now I rarely switch a computer on without having emacs open! I'll find some more docbook setup docs. Trouble is, they teach you how to use docbook, not necessarily the setup on Fedora. > Any time someone gets "stopped at the gate," so to speak, that's a > warning sign that we're suffering from an unnecessary barrier to entry. > > Here's an example, not necessarily relevant to your particular > problem(s): Suppose a would-be author didn't know, and couldn't figure > out, that the "Authoring and Publishing" package group must be > installed Any reason they should? Its only when yum updates something called foobar that I get any inclination that I have an app called foobar on my machine. Where am I supposed to pluck 'authoring and publishing' from? Thin air? Its a bit catch 22. If you know what you want, its easy enough to find. No idea just how to start with such a solution. -- Regards DaveP. XSLT&Docbook FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl