Re: [389-users] memberOf task problem

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Hmm . . . this made perfect sense and I thought it would be the end of
my problems for sure.  However, I added inetUser, ran fixup_memberof.pl
and still see no memberOf populated attribute even if I ask for it
explicitly:

[root@ldap01 ~]# /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b "ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz" -D "cn=Directory Manager" -w - -h ldap01 uid=jasiii
Enter bind password:
version: 1
dn: uid=jasiii,ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
objectClass: top
objectClass: person
objectClass: organizationalPerson
objectClass: inetOrgPerson
objectClass: posixAccount
objectClass: account
objectClass: posixgroup
objectClass: shadowaccount
objectClass: inetuser
physicalDeliveryOfficeName: Kennebunk
telephoneNumber: +1 (207) xxx-xxxx
mail: jsullivan@xxxxxxxxxxx
sn: Sullivan III
givenName: John A.
loginShell: /bin/bash
homeDirectory: /home/jasiii
gidNumber: 100001
uidNumber: 100001
cn: jasiii
uid: jasiii
userPassword: {SSHA}p5K8zhxQYqkjCXmu617H2DtnDKDgnom3qTgQAg==
shadowLastChange: 14366
l: Kennebunk
postalCode: 04043-XXXX
postOfficeBox: PO Box XXX
st: ME
[root@ldap01 ~]# /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b "ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz" -D "cn=Directory Manager" -w - -h ldap01 uid=jasiii memberOf
Enter bind password:
version: 1
dn: uid=jasiii,ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz

I then explicitly added the memberOf attribute to a user, created a
bogus group and added the user to the group.  Still no memberOf.  What
am I doing wrong? Thanks - John


On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 22:59 +0200, Andrey Ivanov wrote:
> 
> 
> 2009/5/22 John A. Sullivan III <jsullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Ah, I did not do that as I thought the filter would make the
>         change to
>         users with objectClass inetOrgPerson. 
> No. The filter just searches what you have in your directory
> 
>  
>          I am virtually certain the users
>         do not explicitly have inetUser as an object class.  Are they
>         supposed
>         to?
> Yes. The set of the attributes that your entry can hold is defined by
> the classes listed in "objectClass". And the attribute memberOf is
> part of the "inetUser" objectClass.
>  
>         Is this done by default or is the need to add this object
>         class to
>         all users in order to use memberOf missing from the
>         documentation (or
>         overlooked by me!).
> No. It is not done by default, you need to add the "objectClass:
> inetUser" (or any other objectClass containing the memberOf attribute)
> to each user entry. You can make a small perl script that does for all
> your users something like
> 
> -------------
> dn: uid=jasiii,ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
> changetype: add
> objectclass: inetUser
> -------------
> 
> 
> You can test it with the GUI of the console for one or two user
> entries just to be sure the attribute memberOf works as you wish...
> 
>  
>         
>         
>         objectClass: top
>         objectClass: person
>         objectClass: organizationalPerson
>         objectClass: inetOrgPerson
>         objectClass: posixAccount
>         objectClass: account
>         objectClass: posixgroup
>         objectClass: shadowaccount
> The origin of your problem is the absence of "objectClass: inetUser"
> necessary to add memberOf attribute to the entry...
> 
>  
>         
>         Thanks - John
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 08:31 +0200, Andrey Ivanov wrote:
>         > Can you show me the result of
>         > /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b
>         > "ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz" -D
>         "cn=Directory
>         > Manager" -w - -h ldap uid=jasiii objectClass
>         >
>         > It will list all the objectClasses of your entry. If
>         "objectClass:
>         > inetUser" is not present in the result of this search you
>         should, as i
>         > said in the previous message, add this objectClass to all
>         the entries
>         > you're going to manage with memberOf plug-in, smth like:
>         >
>         > dn:
>         uid=jasiii,ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         > changetype: add
>         > objectclass: inetUser
>         >
>         >
>         > Hope it helps .
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 2009/5/22 John A. Sullivan III
>         <jsullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         >         I'm starting to feel really stupid here - still not
>         working.
>         >
>         >         I thought the filter must be the problem for sure.
>          I assumed
>         >         from the
>         >         documentation that no filter meant the task would
>         add the
>         >         attribute for
>         >         everything that could take a memberOf attribute.  I
>         did not
>         >         realize it
>         >         defaulted to inetuser.  So I recreated the task with
>         a filter
>         >         of
>         >         (objectClass=inetOrgPerson) but it still did not
>         seem to work.
>         >
>         >         I thought perhaps I was doing ldapmodify wrong
>         (enter the
>         >         parameters,
>         >         double enter, then CTL D) so I edited the
>         fixup-memberof.pl
>         >         script
>         >         according to Rich's instructions.  It ran without
>         error (by
>         >         the way, it
>         >         reflects the admin password when using -w - !!!).
>          But still
>         >         no success.
>         >
>         >         Perhaps I am checking incorrectly.  I did not expect
>         to see
>         >         memberOf
>         >         listed as an attribute in the advanced console
>         screen for the
>         >         user since
>         >         it is a managed attribute.  But I did try to view it
>         with an
>         >         ldapsearch:
>         > It should be visible as an attribute you can add (provided
>         your entry
>         > has "objectClass: inetUser")
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >         /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b
>         >
>         >         "ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz"
>         -D
>         >         "cn=Directory
>         >         Manager" -w - -h ldap uid=jasiii memberOf
>         >
>         >         Is this how I would check for success?
>         >
>         >         There is nothing suspicious in the error log.  I do
>         have the
>         >         audit log
>         >         enabled.  I see the creation and automatic deletion
>         of the
>         >         task but I do
>         >         not see any changes to objects to add and populate
>         the
>         >         memberOf
>         >         attribute.  I'll paste in some excerpts below.
>         >
>         >         What next? Thanks - John
>         >
>         >         time: 20090520221132
>         >         dn: cn=fixMemberOf,cn=memberof
>         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         changetype: add
>         >
>         >         objectClass: top
>         >         objectClass: extensibleObject
>         >         cn: fixMemberOf
>         >         basedn: o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >
>         >         creatorsName: cn=xxxx
>         >         modifiersName: cn=xxx
>         >         createTimestamp: 20090521021132Z
>         >         modifyTimestamp: 20090521021132Z
>         >
>         >         time: 20090520221333
>         >         dn: cn=fixmemberof,cn=memberof
>         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         changetype: delete
>         >         modifiersname: cn=server,cn=plugins,cn=config
>         >
>         >         time: 20090520222242
>         >         dn: cn=fixMemberOf,cn=memberof
>         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         changetype: add
>         >
>         >         objectClass: top
>         >         objectClass: extensibleObject
>         >         cn: fixMemberOf
>         >         basedn:
>         ou=Desks,o=a100,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >         creatorsName: cn=xxxx
>         >         modifiersName: cn=xxxx
>         >         createTimestamp: 20090521022242Z
>         >         modifyTimestamp: 20090521022242Z
>         >
>         >         time: 20090520222442
>         >         dn: cn=fixmemberof,cn=memberof
>         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         changetype: delete
>         >         modifiersname: cn=server,cn=plugins,cn=config
>         >
>         >         .
>         >         .
>         >         .
>         >         time: 20090521183523
>         >         dn: cn=memberOf_fixup_2009_5_21_18_35_23,
>         cn=memberOf task,
>         >         cn=tasks,
>         >         cn=config
>         >         changetype: add
>         >         objectClass: top
>         >         objectClass: extensibleObject
>         >         cn: memberOf_fixup_2009_5_21_18_35_23
>         >         basedn: o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >
>         >         filter: (objectClass=inetOrgPerson)
>         >         creatorsName: cn=xxxx
>         >         modifiersName: cn=xxxx
>         >         createTimestamp: 20090521223523Z
>         >         modifyTimestamp: 20090521223523Z
>         >
>         >         time: 20090521183724
>         >         dn: cn=memberof_fixup_2009_5_21_18_35_23,cn=memberof
>         >         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >
>         >         changetype: delete
>         >         modifiersname: cn=server,cn=plugins,cn=config
>         >
>         >         time: 20090521185804
>         >         dn:
>         >
>         cn=general,ou=1.1,ou=console,ou=cn=xxxxx,ou=userpreferences,ou=ssiservices.biz,o=netscaperoot
>         >         changetype: modify
>         >         replace: nsPreference
>         >         nsPreference::
>         >
>         IwojVGh1IE1heSAyMSAxODo1ODowNSBFRFQgMjAwOQpXaWR0aD0xMjgwClNob3
>         >
>         >
>         dTdGF0dXNCYXI9dHJ1ZQpTaG93QmFubmVyQmFyPXRydWUKWT0wCkhlaWdodD03NjkKWD0wCg==
>         >         -
>         >         replace: modifiersname
>         >         modifiersname: cn=xxxxx
>         >         -
>         >         replace: modifytimestamp
>         >         modifytimestamp: 20090521225804Z
>         >         -
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 15:59 +0200, Andrey Ivanov
>         wrote:
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > 2009/5/21 John A. Sullivan III
>         >         <jsullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         >         >         Thank you, Andrey.  I did do an updatedb
>         and then
>         >         locate - no
>         >         >         fixup-member0f.pl - just
>         >         template.fixup-memberOf.pl :-(
>         >         > It is very strange. Normally during the server
>         installation
>         >         the
>         >         > template should be converted to the "normal" perl
>         script.
>         >         >
>         >         > Have you verified the configuration of the
>         memberOf plugin,
>         >         especially
>         >         > the arguments/attributes "memberofgroupattr" and
>         >         "memberofattr" ?
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         Unless I'm missing something, you're
>         ldapmodify
>         >         looks just
>         >         >         like mine
>         >         >         except for the cn (I believe the
>         documentation says
>         >         it can be
>         >         >         called
>         >         >         anything) and I did not use a filter
>         (again, I
>         >         believe the
>         >         >         documentation
>         >         >         says it is optional and our dit is still
>         rather
>         >         small).
>         >         > If you do not put the filter into the ldif then
>         the default
>         >         filter is
>         >         > used : "(objectClass=inetuser)". Do all your user
>         entries
>         >         include this
>         >         > objectClass (inetuser)? If not, you should add
>         this
>         >         objectClass to all
>         >         > the entries where you want the memberOf attribute
>         to appear.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         I did create a new group and add myself to
>         it as you
>         >         suggested
>         >         >         (thank
>         >         >         you).  Surprisingly, it did not appear to
>         work.  I
>         >         did not see
>         >         >         a
>         >         >         memberOf attribute populated for me.  I
>         then thought
>         >         I would
>         >         >         see if I
>         >         >         need to manually add that attribute to
>         each user (I
>         >         hope not!)
>         >         >         and I did
>         >         >         not see memberOf as an attribute I could
>         add to my
>         >         user
>         >         >         object.
>         >         >
>         >         > No. You should not add it manually, the memberOf
>         attribute
>         >         is
>         >         > maintained automatically based on the group
>         membership.
>         >         >
>         >         > Do you see any message in error log? There should
>         be
>         >         something about
>         >         > the impossibility to write the memberof attribute
>         i think.
>         >         > If you cannot add this attribute manually to your
>         entry it
>         >         means that
>         >         > your entry does not containe "objectClass:
>         inetuser". Add
>         >         this
>         >         > objectClass to all the entries that should be
>         "managed" by
>         >         the plug-in
>         >         > to allow the attribute memberOf to be written to
>         that
>         >         entries.
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         I have verified that the plugin is defined
>         in
>         >         dse.ldif and it
>         >         >         is
>         >         >         enabled.  I also see memberOf defined in
>         >         20subscriber.ldif and
>         >         >         did not
>         >         >         see anything in the documentation about
>         needing to
>         >         extend the
>         >         >         schema.
>         >         > No, you don't need to extend the schema but you
>         need to make
>         >         sure that
>         >         > your entries include the objectClass "inetuser":
>         >         >
>         >         > objectClasses: ( 2.16.840.1.113730.3.2.130 NAME
>         'inetUser'
>         >         DESC
>         >         > 'Auxiliary class which must be present in an entry
>         for
>         >         delivery of
>         >         > subscriber services' SUP top AUXILIARY MAY ( uid $
>         >         inetUserStatus $
>         >         > inetUserHTTPURL $ userPassword $ memberOf )
>         X-ORIGIN
>         >         'Netscape
>         >         > subscriber interoperability' )
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         So, at this point, I am still at a loss
>         for what I
>         >         did wrong.
>         >         >          What do I
>         >         >         check next? Thanks - John
>         >         > Try to add the "objectClass: inetuser" to the
>         entries
>         >         concerned and
>         >         > take a closer look to the "errors" log file.
>         >         >
>         >         > @+
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >         On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:59 +0200, Andrey
>         Ivanov
>         >         wrote:
>         >         >         > Hi,
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > there are two things to be verified
>         and/or taken
>         >         into
>         >         >         account:
>         >         >         > * the pair of the attributes that is
>         maintained
>         >         (the
>         >         >         arguments
>         >         >         > "memberofgroupattr" and "memberofattr"
>         of the
>         >         plug-in)
>         >         >         > * presence of these two attributes in
>         the classes
>         >         of your
>         >         >         users and
>         >         >         > groups
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > To find fixup-memberof.pl try "locate
>         >         fixup-memberof.pl".
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > To launch it manually  you need to add
>         something
>         >         like that
>         >         >         to the
>         >         >         > server (with ldapmodify) :
>         >         >         > dn:
>         cn=memberOf_fixup_2009_5_21_12_39_21,
>         >         cn=memberOf task,
>         >         >         cn=tasks,
>         >         >         > cn=config
>         >         >         > changetype: add
>         >         >         > objectclass: top
>         >         >         > objectclass: extensibleObject
>         >         >         > cn: memberOf_fixup_2009_5_21_12_39_21
>         >         >         > basedn: dc=example,dc=com
>         >         >         > filter: (objectClass=inetOrgPerson)
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > As for your account, you may remove/add
>         yourself
>         >         from a
>         >         >         group to see
>         >         >         > if it changes the memberof attribute.
>         Verify the
>         >         objectClass
>         >         >         of your
>         >         >         > entry and make sure the attribute
>         memberOf is an
>         >         optional
>         >         >         attribute of
>         >         >         > at least one of these objectClasses...
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         > 2009/5/21 John A. Sullivan III
>         >         >         <jsullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         >         >         >         Hello, all.  We are in the
>         process of
>         >         upgrading from
>         >         >         8.0 to
>         >         >         >         8.1.  We've
>         >         >         >         hit a few glitches along the way
>         but most
>         >         has gone
>         >         >         well.
>         >         >         >          However, we
>         >         >         >         wanted to implement the new
>         memberOf
>         >         functionality.
>         >         >          We
>         >         >         >         successfully
>         >         >         >         added the plugin by editing
>         dse.ldif and
>         >         enabled it
>         >         >         from the
>         >         >         >         console.
>         >         >         >         However, we've been unsuccessful
>         in having
>         >         existing
>         >         >         group
>         >         >         >         membership
>         >         >         >         assigned to the memberOf
>         attribute.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         We first tried to run
>         fixup-memberOf.pl
>         >         but the
>         >         >         script does
>         >         >         >         not exist.
>         >         >         >         There is a
>         template.fixup-memberOf.pl but
>         >         this does
>         >         >         not seem
>         >         >         >         to have
>         >         >         >         been built into a final script.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         We then thought we would use the
>         new task
>         >         feature of
>         >         >         the
>         >         >         >         console.  We
>         >         >         >         went to cn=memberof
>         >         task,cn=tasks,cn=config and
>         >         >         tried to
>         >         >         >         create the task
>         >         >         >         object.  There was no
>         >         nsDirectoryServerTask
>         >         >         objectclass.  We
>         >         >         >         added an
>         >         >         >         nstask but then found there was
>         no basedn
>         >         attribute
>         >         >         we could
>         >         >         >         add.  We
>         >         >         >         then created an extensibleobject
>         instead
>         >         but still
>         >         >         not basedn
>         >         >         >         attribute.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         Finally, we resorted to
>         ldapmodify (we
>         >         hesitated
>         >         >         just because
>         >         >         >         we are not
>         >         >         >         very familiar with the command
>         line
>         >         tools).  First,
>         >         >         we did:
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         dn: cn=fixMemberOf,cn=memberof
>         >         >         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         >         >         changetype: add
>         >         >         >         objectclass: top
>         >         >         >         objectclass: extensibleObject
>         >         >         >         cn: fixMemberOf
>         >         >         >         basedn:
>         o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         The Internal Organization has
>         several
>         >         organizations
>         >         >         under it
>         >         >         >         (for
>         >         >         >         various clients) and then user
>         >         organizational units
>         >         >         under
>         >         >         >         those
>         >         >         >         organizations.  Although it
>         generated no
>         >         errors, it
>         >         >         did not
>         >         >         >         seem to
>         >         >         >         work.  Perhaps I just don't know
>         how to
>         >         test it.
>         >         >          However, the
>         >         >         >         following
>         >         >         >         did not return an memberOf data:
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b
>         >         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
>         "ou=Users,o=client1,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz" -D
>         >         >         >         "cn=Directory
>         >         >         >         Manager" -w - -h ldap uid=myid
>         memberOf
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
>         Doing /usr/lib64/mozldap/ldapsearch -b
>         >         >         >
>         >         >
>         >
>         "ou=Users,o=client1,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz" -D
>         >         >         >         "cn=Directory
>         >         >         >         Manager" -w - -h ldap uid=myid
>         >         >         >         showed me plenty of attributes
>         but nothing
>         >         for
>         >         >         memberOf
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         I also tried creating the task
>         with a
>         >         basedn of
>         >         >         >
>         >         ou=Users,o=client1,o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >         >         in case it
>         >         >         >         did not
>         >         >         >         change objects lower in the
>         tree.  Still
>         >         no success.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         Finally I tried:
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         dn: cn=fixMemberOf,cn=memberof
>         >         >         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         >         >         changetype: add
>         >         >         >         objectclass: top
>         >         >         >         objectclass:
>         nsDirectoryServerTask
>         >         >         >         cn: fixMemberOf
>         >         >         >         basedn:
>         o=Internal,dc=ssiservices,dc=biz
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         adding new entry
>         >         cn=fixMemberOf,cn=memberof
>         >         >         >         task,cn=tasks,cn=config
>         >         >         >         ldap_add: Object class violation
>         >         >         >         ldap_add: additional info:
>         unknown object
>         >         class
>         >         >         >         "nsDirectoryServerTask"
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         And received the expected
>         unknown object
>         >         class
>         >         >         error.
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >         What are we doing wrong? Are
>         these
>         >         documentation
>         >         >         bugs? Are
>         >         >         >         there
>         >         >         >         application bugs or do we simply
>         not know
>         >         what we
>         >         >         are doing
>         >         >         >         with tasks
>         >         >         >         and memberOf? How do we get the
>         memberOf
>         >         information
>         >         >         into our
>         >         >         >         existing
>         >         >         >         user objects? Thanks - John
>         >         >         >
>         >         >         >
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